Pentium g3258 vs AMD fx-4350

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Hi, I'm having lots of trouble choosing a cpu here. I am currently building a budget gaming system with a GTX 950.
I was going to go with a Pentium g3258, but I saw the AMD fx-4350. Both can be upgraded to much better cpus, but in my mind, I would rather spend my money upgrading the GPU instead of the cpu. I was looking at the fx-4350 because most newer games would require 4 cores, which is the huge downside of the g3248 with only two. I really don't want to upgrade my processor. What would you guys think?
 
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Both are fairly low end CPUs that will likely have to be upgraded. The upgrade options for a G3258 are much better than for the 4350. I would imagine they'd have roughly the same gaming performance, with the pentium pulling ahead for games that depend strongly on single-threaded performance. I have heard that some games refuse to launch on dual-cores, but can't comment on it personally.

Are you planning on overclocking?

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Both are fairly low end CPUs that will likely have to be upgraded. The upgrade options for a G3258 are much better than for the 4350. I would imagine they'd have roughly the same gaming performance, with the pentium pulling ahead for games that depend strongly on single-threaded performance. I have heard that some games refuse to launch on dual-cores, but can't comment on it personally.

Are you planning on overclocking?
 
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If i were you i wouldn't do any of those. i'd save 40$ and get an i3 6100, or get the pentium and get an i5 later (but you say you don't want to upgrade your cpu)

I know the FX is 4 cores (2 modules) but it still struggles nowadays and even an Athlon X4 860K is recommended more than both.

Games are getting more CPU intensive... your choice.
 


This is correct, IMO. The i3 should be the bottom for a CPU these days if you plan to do any gaming.
 

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I do plan to overclock, but not that much because of stock cooler. And also, you say the i3 would go a long way, but it still only has two cores???
 

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Stock cooler won't make a difference in terms of potential overclock. It might be a few degrees warmer, but not enough to not push that little guy to the limit. It's got the big copper intel cooler, more than enough for 50-60 tdp.
 

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It's a dual core with hyper threading, so it sort of acts like a quad core and that's how Windows/programs see it. So there won't be any issue with games refusing to run (if that's a truly something that happens with Pentiums). It's not as good as a true quad core, i.e. i5, but Intel's architecture is so much better than AMD's right now that even a 2 core+2 pseudo-core i3 is much better than a "true" quad core FX CPU.
 

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Well, I was going on a $400 gaming pc build, so I can't afford it, what else would you recommend?
 

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I would recommend you save up a little more now and get a decent CPU so you won't have to upgrade quite as soon, saving yourself some money in the long run.

Other than that, I'm not sure what else there is to say. I will mention that if you're leaning towards AMD, I'd probably recommend an Athlon X4 860k over the FX 4350.

You can compare gaming performance here: http://anandtech.com/bench/CPU/1288
Most of the benchmarks don't have the 860k, but you can just look at the results for a similarly clocked AMD A10 or A8, as they should be similar to an 860k in terms of CPU performance. Looks like most of the benchmarks have the G3258.
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G-7bfPG2dE

It's not a regular i3, thing is a beast and beats the crap out of the might i5 2500k and can give a nice fight even against other quadcores.
In CPU bound scenarios, the use of faster ram can give the i3 a pretty freaking sweet boost. You can even overclock it if you get a z170 board and get the bios from certain sources.
 

FormulaBolt

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My build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3YxHvK
Is there any way I could fit in an i3 6100?
 

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Less than $10 more than your current build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($111.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($30.69 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card ($125.00)
Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($23.26 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($31.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $372.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-22 16:02 EDT-0400
 

FormulaBolt

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Thank you I appreciate it
 

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I didn't read everything but how is this a choice?
FX AM3+ anything is always better than a G3258. Because FX means its quad or higher

G3258 is my favorite intel processor. but you lose the smoothness in games and stutters once in a while.
but is a Great CPU.

FX anything will not stutter during a game.

I know for a fact i've tested over 8x G3258 computers. all with different clocks. 3.2Ghz, 3.8Ghz, 4.0Ghz, 4.4, 4.7Ghz
For example Battlefield 4 it would stutter slightly here and there randomly but not often. With any GPU i used.
GTX 480, GTX 750, GTX 960, 280X, 290X, GTX 970
All stuttered a bit or dip heavy.

I haven't had an FX processor that i needed to ever really overclock. and or saw any stutter in any game.


Also the G3258 not working with all the games is true too. sometimes you have do stuff to game to force it.