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burntoshine

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Lost in between 1151 2011 and cpu sockets ad motherboards - want thunderbolt 3.



I have followed the evolution of PC tech for about 5 years..last 12 months fallen behind..

So to start...USB 3 great --- Thunderbolt way better --- Thunderbolt 3 AMAZING and has USB C compatibility.

Please someone give me a link or a short breakdown. I have dove into the boards and chipsets avail for thunderbolt 3 available..seems the neccessary chipset is the alpine ridge, which is independent of the cpu socket.

HAVE FOUND GIGABYTE BOARDS

z170x-ud5 - uses the 1151 socket (skylake - newer)
x99 - uses the 2011 socket (haswell - older)

How do i choose a board tat will perform at Thunderbolt 3 transfer rates and be the most future proof?
Also, should I wait till more board and chips are out that support this new Alpine Ridge chipset?

Thank you for helping. I am a lost soul in a tech world. :)

-BurnToShine


 
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While Thunderbolt is better, it's still pretty rare (and I doubt it will become more common) to actually find TB gear. And I know that TB 1&2 needed super-expensive active cables, not sure about 3.

Unless you really really need the data rate and can't directly use PCIe, I'd stick with USB 3.1.
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While Thunderbolt is better, it's still pretty rare (and I doubt it will become more common) to actually find TB gear. And I know that TB 1&2 needed super-expensive active cables, not sure about 3.

Unless you really really need the data rate and can't directly use PCIe, I'd stick with USB 3.1.
 
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The SSD inside that has a list price $270 cheaper. As I said, if you can do so, use PCIe directly.

Also, M.2 SSDs get similar performance for less $$$ and could probably be put in a much smaller and cheaper enclosure, either USB 3.1 or TB3. Do you want to spend probably ~$150 more for the TB3 enclosure over a USB3.1 one?

 
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You should be able to get the same speed at about two thirds the price when the 950 Pro 1TB arrives. And that's before you consider that you can get the same speed now by just buying the drive inside it, rather than the case.

As for external drives, I see very little use case for extremely high speed external storage. If you're moving it between PCs in the same building, a 10GbE network avoids any need to actually move the drive around, and effectively doubles transfer speeds because you're not double-handling the data. If it's going outside the building, most common is going to be backups, which aren't very time critical. Throw it on HDDs and save quite a few grand.

Only thing I can really think of is handing it off to clients. Who you can't guarantee support TB3. Or people using Mac Pros, because Apple doesn't believe in internal storage...

I don't think that case would be compatible with USB3.1, despite both using the USB type C connector.
 
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I'm an old Pro Stock motorcycle guy and just like really fast things whatever they may be. Speedy stuff keeps me going. One has to have fun somehow:). I don't buy on price, What can it do is my interest. We are all different, fortunately.
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The only advantages of Thunderbolt that I can see is mostly in the laptop arena - fewer external connectors (makes for thinner laptops) and daisy-chaining devices (fewer connectors needed). On desktops all of those can be achieved easier and more cost-effective. Which is why, I suspect most TB capable motherboards simply come with the header.

USB 3.1 Type-C is the biggie as far as I can see.

As for the guy saying he just buy "speed" toys - good luck. I find it frustrating to point to a little box on my desk and saying "see, that goes *fast*" - most people try hard to be polite, but ....
 
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As far as you can see. But what? Where does luck play into this. We all see things in a different light. Fortunately we are all different and have various interests. The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.
W.P.
 
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