Which motherboards can use xeon w3565 cpu and standard non ecc memory?

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some of the motherboards i see like dell poweredge r410 can use socket 1366 cpu like xeon w3565, but from what i can tell require ecc memory. I have tons of standard memory and would help a lot if there is a lga 1366 socket motherboard that i can use the memory i already have on, also would need to put large graphics card in so needs x16 pcie, and preferably another pcie expansion slot in addition to one for gfx card
 
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I have a T3500 purchased for $53 +$24 in Dec '15 and upgraded.

1. You can use non-ecc DDR3-1333 RAM in a Dell Precision T3500, It's triple channel, 6X slots, up to 24GB so 6X 4GB or 3X 8GB would be the thing to use.

2. The T3500 has: Two PCIe x8 slot wired as x4 (half-length); two...
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I have xeon w3565 processor, and lots of standard memory, and gtx 770 graphics card, so just trying to find the best price on a motherboard to take all of those, have all the other parts needed too already case powersupplies ect
 
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My bad. Umm... the little thing on the right bottom shows I have a 970. Overclocked I might add...WAIT! $200 dollars, maybe I'll put mine on the market. Wow. Let me peruse...

You aren't kidding. The thing cost $160 new

I think it might be because of the exact reason you're looking for one, and I'm going to upgrade. The 1366 line was too good for consumers and Intel halted that whole idea. People are now dropping in $1500 processors for $200 and running 12 threads at 4.5Ghz with Triple Channel Memory
 
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I'm sorry I was Brash (you can google, I'm not trying to offend you, that's just how I talk), I didn't know that my Mobo was going for so much and I didn't know that you didn't catch the whole 'space' my post was in. I'm sorry, I can no longer help you, I gave you what I know, that my Mobo answers your questions and desires, I didn't know it became so expensive, and I cant help you find another without spending much time going through available 1366 mobos...same as you.

I hope that someone else will chime in, but I can tell you that I've seen others with i7-8series and i5-7series running around here (this site) with ASUS mobos in their signature. Maybe search "ASUS 1366 ECC Memory" and, I hope, find something cheaper.
 
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ty sir no apologies needed you were perfectly helpful I really appreciate you taking the time to add information to the subject. If anyone else has a xeon w3565 and higher end graphics card working, and non ecc standard memory working in a cheaper server motherboard, such as the ones I am looking at dell precision t3500 motherboard or dell poweredge r410/r610 motherboards that will really help
 
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zedekk,

I have a T3500 purchased for $53 +$24 in Dec '15 and upgraded.

1. You can use non-ecc DDR3-1333 RAM in a Dell Precision T3500, It's triple channel, 6X slots, up to 24GB so 6X 4GB or 3X 8GB would be the thing to use.

2. The T3500 has: Two PCIe x8 slot wired as x4 (half-length); two PCIe x16 Gen 2 graphics slots; two PCI slots

They are rated to use 2X x16 PCIe 2.0 GPU's up to 150W each.

3. If you do buy a T3500, have a look around for a deal on a PERC H310 RAID controller. Get the low profile one and not the server one with the very tall heatsink. For about $60 you can change the 3GB/s disk system to 6GB/s . I did this with a T5500 and the Passmark disk score changed from 1940 to 2649.

I have a T3500 and T5500 and both are 100% reliable, very good performing considering that I think of $53 as close to free as possible for a workstation, and these systems are very quiet. The power supplies are more or less server quality. I don't think you can find a less expensive way to use the CPU and memory you have.

Cheers,

BambiBoom


Modeling:

1. HP z420 (2015) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) > 32GB DDR3 1866 ECC RAM > Quadro K4200 (4GB) > Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) > Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z2300 speakers > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)>
[ Passmark Rating = 5064 > CPU= 13989 / 2D= 819 / 3D= 4596 / Mem= 2772 / Disk= 4555]
[ Passmark V9.0 Beta Rating = 5019.1 > CPU= 14206 / 2D= 779 / 3D= 5032 / Mem= 2707 / Disk= 4760] 3.31.16
[Cinebench R15 > CPU = 1014 OpenGL= 126.59 FPS] 7.8.15

Rendering:

2. Dell Precision T5500 (2011) (Revised) > 2X Xeon X5680 (6-core @ 3.33 / 3.6GHz), 48GB DDR3 1333 ECC Reg. > Quadro K2200 (4GB ) > PERC H310 / Samsung 840 250GB / WD RE4 Enterprise 1TB > M-Audio 192 sound card > Logitech z313 > 875W PSU > Windows 7 Professional 64> HP 2711x (27", 1920 X 1080)
[ Passmark system rating = 3844 / CPU = 15047 / 2D= 662 / 3D= 3550 / Mem= 1785 / Disk= 2649] (12.30.15)

Other Stuff:

3. Dell Precision T3500 (2011) (Rev 2) Xeon X5677 4-core @ 3.46 / 3.73GHz > 12GB (6X 2GB) DDR3-1333 ECC > Quadro 4000 (2GB) > PERC 6/i + Seagate 300GB 15K SAS ST3300657SS + WD Black 500GB > 525W PSU> Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > 2X Dell 19" LCD
[Passmark system rating = 2751, CPU = 7236 / 2D= 658 / 3D=2020 / Mem= 1875 / Disk=1221]
 
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oh wow this information is exactly what I was looking for, you guys are awesome thank you so much for taking the time to give your insights and information
 
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@bambiboom have you used consumer grade graphics cards on your precision t3500 motherboards, I have some pcie x16 graphics cards, like my hd 5850, and a gtx 670, and others will those work do you think, or only the professional grade ones like quadro and firepro cards will work on that motherboard, basically will server cpu and motherboard, rest just regular parts work, It seems to me like it would since its just a pcie x16 slot and the gfx cards should work, but I haven't used server grade mobo or cpu's etc before, just got some xeon cpu's from a friend, and have extra computer parts as a lot of people these days have, my wife and kids all have their own computers plus home theatre pc, and some work computers, so through upgrading and repairing over the years, got all the other parts I would need already if they would work and would like to make use of these xeon cpu's just want to make use of all the stuff I can if I already have it, so I dont have to buy extra stuff if its not completely necessary, seems like the t3500 motherboard would be perfect if I can use one of my extra graphics cards on it, I have some pretty good ones that could be still put to use, idk how much the quadro or firepro cards are or their performance If they are the only ones that will work i guess I will have to look into it to see if its worth it to get one of those or if I would be better off just getting regular mobo and cpu, and having to sideline the xeons. thank you in advance for any thoughts you can give towards this subject.
 
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zedekk,

You can use either workstation of consumer/gaming cards with a T3500. On Passmark Performance Test, a GTX 670 does well with a top 2D score of 692 on a W3690 CPU and in 3D, a 5498 -also with a W3690. This is reasonable for the GTX 670. The top score of 9077 is on an i7-3930K overclocked to 4.8GHz, and that in GTX 970 land, but the scores for non-O/C i5-4690K can be in the 5500's. The top score for a GTX 750 Ti of 7,764 systems tested is 5054 and an i7-4790K O/C to 4.5GHz is still only making 4791, so a T3500 can still shift the pixels. The HD 5850: Top 2D is 561 (W3520) and top 3D: 2326 (W3520). Keep in mind that while you can use two GPU's, there is not SLI support, but you can run multiple monitors that are running off the separate GPU's. It depends on your expecataions, but unless this is for fairly hard gaming, you can get a lot done with a 3D over 5000. If you use two cards, they should be the same so there are not driver conflicts.

Both the T3500 and T5500 have been the depositories of parts left from previous upgrades- the T3500 has the Quadro 4000 from my first HP z420 and the PERC 6/i and the two Seagate 15K drives arrived with the T5500. the T5500 has the Quadro K2200, Samsung 840 and WD Black that was used in both the first and second z420's- a double hand me down.

The performance results can be very good with these parts as LGA1366 those the CPU's are running at modern speeds. The T5500 has a Passmark rating of 15047 from a pair of 6-core Xeon X5680's. A pair of Xeon E5-2460's 6-cores @ 2.5 /3.0GHz make 15061 but cost together $1225., whereas I paid $400 for the two X5680's and less than $1,100 for all the parts= system, RAM, GPU, drives- everything.

Cheers,

BambiBoom



 
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very excellent information, I wasn't sure what would even work with what, I am learning a ton from this. Do you know anything about the dell poweredge series like r410/r710 ect . are those just as flexible motherboards taking consumer non ecc memory consumer graphics cards etc.. are all server motherboards flexible with consumer grade parts, or is the t3500/t5500 motherboards unique in that regard
 
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zedekk,

Servers do share chipsets, CPU's, and RAM and the same PCIe slots with workstations- which are quite close, but the motherboards are special format and can only fit the 2U, 4U server chassis etc. They de-emphasize the GPU and have more slots meant for RAID controller,and double or quad LAN- network-related.

Servers are going off into to hardware specialized to read,write, and transfer large pile of of data. Servers do have extreme reliability- terrific redundant and vast power supplies, hot swap drive bays that can switch drives without shutting them off and other tricks. The CPU's are usually slower - lower single-threaded performance, but with more cores and the systems are not terrific for visualization- CAD or games. Your server will be have 20 cores at 2GHz and your workstation will be a 6-cores at 3.9GHz I have a Poweredge server and like all servers, the huge air volume they need makes them too noisy to have in the same room. Even if your use is server-like, stay with a workstation- fast single-threaded, fewer cores and they're made to run all the time anyway- but quietly.

Cheers,

BambiBoom
 
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oh , i think i see the difference now, the t3500 is from 'workstation' class which looks like it goes with standard form factors, the poweredge motherboards i was looking at are 'server' class and looks like it goes with server form factor so technically it would work just wouldnt fit in a normal computer case, So I am better off using workstation motherboard such as the t3500, tyvm for all your answers
 
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you were really helpful as well joshyboy82, ty both for taking the time to give your information and insight it helped me a great deal, I learned a lot and it is greatly appreciated
 
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