Help me choose components for a new PC. (CPU, GPU mostly)

thetoxikiwi · Apr 23, 2016

I have a pretty low budget, but I am willing to save up a bit more, to optimize perfomance.

CPU
I was thinking about going with FX-4300, but now Directx12 is going to optimize core perfomance, so now I am thinking about choosing between FX-6300, FX-8350 because of the cores, or Intel i3 6100, because of the later upgradability. (though i am not sure I am going to upgrade so soon.) The problem with Intel is that I am on a low budget. Maybe I could go with a older generation i5. The thing is I don't really know much about CPU's. I don't want to bottleneck my GPU though.

GPU
With the GPU I was thinking about GTX 750ti, but decided I need a better one, so I thought of GTX 960 or R9 380. I am afraid of AMD, because of Nvidia "owning" the market, and all my friends are using Nvidia, and are stoked, unlike some who use AMD. I was thinking about buying a GPU, when Pascal comes out, hoping for a price drop.

RAM
If I am going with i3, I have to go with DDR4 which is not a problem, because they cost roughly the same as DDR3, and I am going with 8gb, because that is the sweet spot.. I think. And does the speed and manufacturer matter that much?

MOBO
I have almost 0 knowledge about motherboards. I know that I have to find a compatible with my memory and CPU, and enough SATA 3 and USB3 ports. Not sure if I am going to use SLI, but who knows.

PSU
Even though I am on a budget, I still thing I am going with a reputable PSU manufacturer (I don't want to burn my house down), So I think I am going Corsair CX-430, or something a bit bigger, like a VS-550 If I need to (Considering the choice of a GPU and CPU.)

STORAGE
Again though I am on a budget, HDD is not the part I want to cheap out on, So I was thinking of Western Digital Blue Caviar 1TB. Maybe add a SSD later down the line.

CASE
Case is going to be a cheap one I can find,that supports my motherboard, because that doesn't matter that much.. I think.

OS
Is buying W10 from kinguin or g2a a good idea? They are a lot cheaper there.

The problem is that I am going out of my budget with these parts too, but I don't want to buy a pc, that runs games like my laptop here. There's no point in it. It sounds dumb, but I want a "good" and "cheap" PC. My budget is around 700$/600EUR. And parts in my country are expensive, just like delivery from other countries. I can maybe get a GPU and a CPU from amazon.

ChrisTsall99 · Apr 23, 2016

Hello,
CPU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=2MN-0004-00002
GPU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125802
Mobo : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6ZP3R87846
PSU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207014
Ram : 2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104673
HDD : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236528
CASE : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811853003
All These 600$~
For OS download whatever u want free

Atomwolf · Apr 23, 2016

In terms of GPU shopping, you will be bombarded with (mostly unintentional) misinformation. I know linus tech tips said that first, but it's true.
The GTX 750 Ti is still a very relevant card and will run most of today's big titles like GTA 5 and Crysis 3, however some lowered graphics settings are necessary. If you're looking for more horsepower, try looking at the GTX 950 or even the 960 if you have enough money. All three of these GPU's sit comfortably in the "price to performance sweet spot".

While the CPU plays a major role in the PC actually booting, you don't need an i7 or an FX-8370 for gaming. The only real requirements for CPU's in gaming rigs is that it's good to be above 3 GHz/core and 4 cores, although 2 hyperthreaded cores will work as well. an exception can be the pentium G3258; the budget unlocked CPU.

Motherboards are definitely a tricky topic. There are people all over the internet thinking that H81 mobo's are slower than Z97 mobo's. This is untrue. The only difference between the two is that all Z97 mobo's support CPU overclocking, and most support AMD CrossFireX. SLI support is a bit more scarse but still exists. All you need for a low budget build is a PCIe 16x 3.0 slot for your GPU, and the correct socket for your CPU.

Shopping for RAM is rarely hard. You mentioned that if you are settling with an i3-6100, you would have to get DDR4 RAM. This is not entirely true, as the i3-6100 has support for DDR3-1333 and DDR3-1600, as well as DDR4-2133 and DDR4-1866. DDR3 is cheaper but DDR4 is faster (and newer)

I recommend a 500/600w PSU. Fully modular PSU's are double the price of normal/semi modular PSU's, so stick with normal/semi modular psu's as you're on a budget.

The other guy was right, you can just torrent win10 from piratebay or some other torrenting website totally free. same with microsoft office if you need it.

I don't recommend spending more than $50 on a case. a Mid-tower should do just fine.
hope this helps

ChrisTsall99 · Apr 24, 2016

Atomwolf :

In terms of GPU shopping, you will be bombarded with (mostly unintentional) misinformation. I know linus tech tips said that first, but it's true.
The GTX 750 Ti is still a very relevant card and will run most of today's big titles like GTA 5 and Crysis 3, however some lowered graphics settings are necessary. If you're looking for more horsepower, try looking at the GTX 950 or even the 960 if you have enough money. All three of these GPU's sit comfortably in the "price to performance sweet spot".

While the CPU plays a major role in the PC actually booting, you don't need an i7 or an FX-8370 for gaming. The only real requirements for CPU's in gaming rigs is that it's good to be above 3 GHz/core and 4 cores, although 2 hyperthreaded cores will work as well. an exception can be the pentium G3258; the budget unlocked CPU.

Motherboards are definitely a tricky topic. There are people all over the internet thinking that H81 mobo's are slower than Z97 mobo's. This is untrue. The only difference between the two is that all Z97 mobo's support CPU overclocking, and most support AMD CrossFireX. SLI support is a bit more scarse but still exists. All you need for a low budget build is a PCIe 16x 3.0 slot for your GPU, and the correct socket for your CPU.

Shopping for RAM is rarely hard. You mentioned that if you are settling with an i3-6100, you would have to get DDR4 RAM. This is not entirely true, as the i3-6100 has support for DDR3-1333 and DDR3-1600, as well as DDR4-2133 and DDR4-1866. DDR3 is cheaper but DDR4 is faster (and newer)

I recommend a 500/600w PSU. Fully modular PSU's are double the price of normal/semi modular PSU's, so stick with normal/semi modular psu's as you're on a budget.

The other guy was right, you can just torrent win10 from piratebay or some other torrenting website totally free. same with microsoft office if you need it.

I don't recommend spending more than $50 on a case. a Mid-tower should do just fine.
hope this helps

Hello there,
I think that for cpu , he must buy an intel i3 6th gen because amd cpu's are outdated(chipset AM3+ is old)
So amd is totally a bad choice

Atomwolf · Apr 24, 2016

ChrisTsall99 :

Atomwolf :

Hello there,
I think that for cpu , he must buy an intel i3 6th gen because amd cpu's are outdated(chipset AM3+ is old)
So amd is totally a bad choice

AMD chips are ideal for people on a budget but often have no regard for low TDP and good temperatures, so they get very hot and are very power hungry. Another concern is that AMD chips have the pins on the CPU's themselves, leading to pins being bent and snapped off. (a novice mistake)
the i3-6100 is probably a good choice for thetoxikiwi because of it's solid clock speed and DDR4 support.

ChrisTsall99 · Apr 24, 2016

Atomwolf :

ChrisTsall99 :

AMD chips are ideal for people on a budget but often have no regard for low TDP and good temperatures, so they get very hot and are very power hungry. Another concern is that AMD chips have the pins on the CPU's themselves, leading to pins being bent and snapped off. (a novice mistake)
the i3-6100 is probably a good choice for thetoxikiwi because of it's solid clock speed and DDR4 support.

Yep thats true

thetoxikiwi · Apr 24, 2016

And does Dual Channel (2x4) against 1x8 matter that much?

Atomwolf · Apr 26, 2016

thetoxikiwi :

Yes. Dual channel memory is double the speed of single channel, however single channel can be ideal if you're looking to upgrade to 16GB later down the line. However if this is not your intention, I would definitely recommend 2x4GB.

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