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THANI

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This might be a huge request guys but pzz listen, i am new to pc build, I got some parts for it and i don't know whether assembling all them will work and worth the money. i will list down the components
Processor =AMD FX-4300
Motherboard = Asus m5a78l-m-usb3
GPU= ZOTAC Geforce Gtx 750 Ti 2GB
Ram=Kingston Fury Memory 8gb module DDR3 1866MHz
Hard Disk=Seagate Barracuda 1tb desktop
Optical Dr... =lg gh24nsb0 dvd writer
and don't know how much watt psu needed for this things
 
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Ecky

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If you haven't built it already, I'd like to suggest some changes.

1) The FX-4300 is 4 years old now, and companies like Newegg don't even keep them in stock anymore. A Core i3 6100 is a bit more expensive, but very much worth spending another $30 on. If that's out of your budget, you should instead go with either a Skylake Pentium, such as the G4400, or An Athlon x4 860K. The Athlon is probably a better CPU on average, but AMD sockets are dead-ends that offer no upgrades, whereas the Pentium has great upgrade potential.

2) Going with an Intel CPU would require that you change to an Intel socket 1151 motherboard. Going with an Athlon x4 would require that you change to an AMD socket FM2+ motherboard.

3) Do you really need a DVD drive? I haven't used one in 8 years.

Regarding your question about the power supply, I expect your system will draw less than 200w in total. Go with a high quality 350-500w unit.
 
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gokitty199

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heres a cheap psu, it will do the job. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438012&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

and what do you mean by your question of if its worth the money?

and yes that build will work together, however get http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

as its 2 4gb sticks and to run them in dual channel instead of the single 8gb stick
 
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Benjiwenji

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I like that i3-6100 + 750ti. I also acknowledge that the i3-6100 is better than the 860k, but the CPU, given the option of i3 or 860k, isn't going to be the performance bottleneck of a budget build. I would recommend saving on the CPU and spending the extra on the GPU in budget builds. Also, the XFX PSU is better quality. Know that I did drop the SSD as an opportunity cost since SSDs don't technically contribute to performance. The 380 is well worth it in this case.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi A88W 3D ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($83.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($33.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Directron)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $503.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-25 16:24 EDT-0400
 
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Benjiwenji

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My point being the CPU isn't going to matter when using the 750ti. Lets remain on the bigger picture and don't get too technical, since you already know how these technicality arguments end. If you put a AAA title on the 860 system vs the same 6100 system at the same $500, then the 380 will be the part that matters.

Thus, it remains valid.
 
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Ecky

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I understand wanting to stay out of technicality arguments, but I'd argue the i3 is easily worth the $10 more. However, you could also go for a $50 motherboard with the Athlon and set aside some more cash for a better GPU.

It's a minority of games, but tell the people who play (just as an example) Guild Wars 2 that the GPU is the only important part. Go into any major town in GW2, and you're going to get 15-20fps with the Athlon, regardless of how much GPU power you have, and how much you lower the graphical settings whereas the i3 will still hold a playable 30fps.

Ask me how I know.

If OP plays any games that are severely CPU limited (basically all MMOs), the only upgrade for the Athlon is to replace the entire platform and buy a new Windows license.
 
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Benjiwenji

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GW2 is a very specific example. Furthermore, you specifically pointed to large cities of GW2, which only accounts to less than 5% of the game and 0% of all PC games. That kind of example is not conclusive of the 860k's overall performance. I don't think the OP mentioned specifically GW2, or MMOs at all for that matter. You chose the worst category to misrepresent the CPU. Luckily, I happen to play GW2 and own a Athlon 760k (the previous Athlon generation) + r9 280. With the 760k OC'ed, I would get 1080p/60 fps with absolutely maxed settings just about everywhere except in big towns, where I get 30 fps. Keep in mind that's the max setting.

While I disagree with your argument and your choice of example, I agree with you that i3-6100 is an overall better CPU than the 860k. That point was never contested by anyone to begin with. However, that "betterness" is rarely observable in real world performance. Personally, I would advise against grabbing the cheapest mobo you can find in a store. Computer is something to stick around for years, buy a quality part. With that said, there is nothing wrong with the i3-6100, just get a better mobo with it.







 
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