tical2399 :
Sounds like a straw man argument to me. Where are these peeps that were under the impression that a clc cooled as well as custom loop. As far as air coolers doing as well a clc? Well me and my Miami summers call bs on that statement. My H100i does way better than the world famous 212 evo that I had prior.
Don't ya think most who have bought CLCs did so because they **thought** that they did something better than air coolers ? Those that I have spoken to just "assumed" that they were actually similar to custom water loops but were pre-assembled at the factory. But most do not realize that:
- CLC's do not cool as well as air coolers in their price range (air usually 10%+ cheaper)
- CLC are typically 8 - 12 times louder than air coolers in their price range
- CLCs use cheap aluminum radiators with low thermal transfer co-efficient.
- CLC's defy the first rule of water cooling and mix copper blocks with aluminum radiators .. that's a bad thing
https://martinsliquidlab.wordpress.com/2012/01/24/corrosion-explored/
- CLCs defy the 2nd rule of water cooling to provide 1 gpm of flow throughout the loop.
- CLCs must use high rpm fans to offset the poor thermal transfer efficiency of the aluminum rads and the low flow (0.11 gpm pumps). Changing the fans to slower rpm units significantly gimps performance
One argument made is that they are relieving the 2 pound force that the large heat sink places on the MoBo ... so says they guy who just applied 60 pounds of clamping force while tightening down the water block screws.
http://www.innovationcooling.com/key_to_performance.html
Many peeps who think that these two statements mean the same thing
"The Hyper 212 is a great budget cooler"
"The Hyper 212 is a great cooler"
As for your BS, numbers don't lie.
The hyper 212 is a great cooler ...
for the money. No argument there; it is not however a great cooler when compared with the likes of the Thermalright Silver Arrow, Phanteks PH-TC14-PE, Noctua NH D14 & D15, Cryorig R1 ... all of which are cheaper than the H100i
So, yes the $100 H100i is better than the $25 Hyper 212 costing 1/4 as much.... but isn't that a bit like saying nVidia is better than AMD cause the GTX 980 Ti is better than the R9 270 ?
And I didn't present any data (see image above) on the Hyper 212, did I ? The the only "strawman" created was the one which argues that CLCs are better than air coolers because a $100 CLC outperforms a $25 air cooler.... not exactly apples and apples is it ?
So lets go back to apples and apples and data I **actually** presented for the the Noctua DH15 and Cryorig R1 which as we can clearly see in the graphic above:
- The $89 Noctua DH15 air cooler thermally outperforms the $100 H100i CLC by 2C
- The H100i CLC is 12 times louder than the D15 while it loses thermally to the air cooled D15
- The $90 Cryorig R1 air cooler thermally outperforms the $100 H100i CLC by 3C
- The H100i is 8 times louder than the R1 while it loses thermally to the air cooled R1
So, no ... no strawmen there ... the graphic shows that:
1. The referenced air coolers are, in fact, cheaper ($10-$100) than the H100i, like I said
2. The referenced air coolers do, in fact, cool better (2-3C) than the H100i, like I said
3. The referenced air coolers are, in fact, 8 - 12 times quieter than the H100i, like I said
Given the above test results ..
Wouldn't your Miami based PC be better served if your CPU was 2-3C cooler ?
Wouldn't you be better served if your CPU PC wasn't 8 - 12 times as loud ? ?
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