GTX 970 Ref. Heating

daynwsowulf

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Hello Tom's Hardware experts. Thanks for visiting my post. I'm willing to choose the best solution for the best answer.

I bought a GTX 970 reference EVGA model. It's not overclocked, it has a blower fan, similar to the reference model. It runs hot, really hot. When gaming it goes all the way up to the 80c which is it's TJmax, and starts throttling, going from 1200+MHz to 1070MHz, yeah this is the turbo boost going down, on idle it sits at 53c. I created a fan curve and it now runs at 76c with an overclock running at 1440MHz at turbo boost at 90% fan speed, and sits at 48c when idle. I then went to NVidia's control panel and changed the Power management mode from "Prefer maximum performance" to "Adaptive" idle temps go down from 48c to 32c, max temps stays the same. However, people complains that "Adaptive" power management can decrease the graphics card performance, since it will not use it's maximum power capability, even though on MSI Afterburner it says that the power usage is 101%. Tested on firestrike and the score with "Adptive" mode is 10563, on the other hand with the"Prefer maximum performance"mode the score is 10364 weird isn't it? I have to play with VSync on, otherwise it starts heating, and fan speeds have to go all the way to 90+% to cool it down. And the thing about VSync is that sometimes framerate drops happens, and it's annoying, the GPU usage is always at around 20/40/60%. I play on 1600x900 monitor, and FPS drops happens...

This card is weird, it's the first "Real" gaming card I've had on my PC gaming life. So I'm not used to how these higher range cards works. (I used to have mid/low range cards such as GTX 460s, 550Tis, 750Tis). I'm kinda disappointed. What I want to know is, is this how a GTX 970 performs? is it normal? What would you do on my situation? Open the card and change thermal paste? Buy another card? Any suggestion, or helpful information would be much appreciated. When I replaced my GPU I did not reinstall the drivers, I have no issues with drivers crashing, (I had the 750 Ti in here) but could that be the reason it's heating? Nah couldn't be.

This is my specs if needed:
OS: Windows 10 - Drivers up to date 364.72
CPU: Intel Core i7 4790 (non K)
RAM: 16GB RAM DDR3 1333MHz (4+4+4+4)
GPU: The weird GTX 970

Thanks in advance, sorry for the long text. I'm just worried, or anxious, or upset. Kinda.
 
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first of, download and install DDU
log in to safemode, and use DDU to unistall graphics drivers 364.72, then install a graphic driver version from 359-362,

second, you should know reference cards tend to run hotter than OEM cards, so with a reference card you need to make sure you have solid case cooling and airflow to help with this
third it can be hard to gauge your temps properly when not knowing your ambient temps, case cooling setup and such,
agree the card shouldnt throttle, and there could very well in the end be something wrong with it and need to be RMA'd, but these steps we need to have sorted first

Gnuffi

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first of, download and install DDU
log in to safemode, and use DDU to unistall graphics drivers 364.72, then install a graphic driver version from 359-362,

second, you should know reference cards tend to run hotter than OEM cards, so with a reference card you need to make sure you have solid case cooling and airflow to help with this
third it can be hard to gauge your temps properly when not knowing your ambient temps, case cooling setup and such,
agree the card shouldnt throttle, and there could very well in the end be something wrong with it and need to be RMA'd, but these steps we need to have sorted first
 
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daynwsowulf

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Wow. Though it's still running hot, the framerate drops have been vanished! Somehow reinstalling the driver with DDU has given me a significant stability boost. I can even play The Witcher III with Hairworks on now! With Adptive Vsync on framerate is locked to 60 at all times, with the 900p resolution and some optimized settings, I never played games so fluidly, with such graphical setting like I'm doing now. I'll just leave this card like that, even if it will push the fans to 90% at most of the time, it's running like beast. Lesson learned: reinstall the drivers when replacing the GPU. Thanks for the suggestion. Cheers!

 

Gnuffi

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the 364 drivers are atm bad, many people have reported varying degrees of problems, card performance being one
just remember to check your case cooling, side panel fan at/below teh gpu for intake will help greatly with temps on a reference card,
since a reference card mainly has 1 way of removing hot air, when using a reference card you want a positive pressure case, = more cold intake than exhaust, so the card can suck some of that fresh cold air in
2front intakes 1 side panel intake at/below gpu is strongly recommended, along with standard back exhaust + a top back exhaust if possible,
adding a bottom case fan near/as close to gpu helps too ofc

as a general driver tip: dont install a new driver right away (dont have geforce auto update on), give it a couple of weeks and check if there is some negative feedback, before you give teh driver a go,
and as always should anything not work optimally after new driver install: boot safe mode, DDU to remove driver ;)

hope you get a stable gtx970 temp going, best of luck