Looking for upgrades, hoping a suggestion as to what might be bottlenecking my computer and with what to replace it with.

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I posted here in the CPU forum because I believe that's where I might be falling short. Every time I shop for parts I find myself trying to relearn everything I researched from last time and even then I feel like I make poor decisions. For example, my current CPU was a purchase I made because I figured the speed was nice even though people made complaints about it overheating.

Its never shut off (although I've never tried overclocking) but my poor CPU cooler works overtime practically all the time. Basically I was looking for opinions and input on where I might be able to upgrade. I don't have a huge budget so I was looking to replace at least the worst part of the system and maybe make upgrades to my cooling set up and was considering something along the lines of liquid cooling as it seems much more affordable than in the past.

Anyway, I've attached my dxdiag and I'll link my case because I'm not confident I'll know exactly what fits and what doesn't. If any more information is needed, I'll post it asap!

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352020&ignorebbr=1
GPU: AMD Radeon R7 200 Series
Dxdiag:
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System Information
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Time of this report: 4/26/2016, 20:38:39
Machine name: DEUSDEDIT-PC
Operating System: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (10.0, Build 10586) (10586.th2_release_sec.160328-1908)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: MSI
System Model: MS-7693
BIOS: BIOS Date: 07/16/13 09:19:14 Ver: 04.06.05
Processor: AMD FX(tm)-4350 Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs), ~4.2GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8142MB RAM
Page File: 3087MB used, 13246MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: 12
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
Miracast: Available, with HDCP
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
DxDiag Version: 10.00.10586.0000 64bit Unicode
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Then there's no real bottleneck in your system mate.

What you have is a fairly solid medium setting gaming rig.

There's no real vang for buck upgrade path for you.

You can spend $200 & drop a 380 or 960 in there to push for high settings should you wish but whether its worth the outlay is upto you.

Like I said before the g46 is a mediocre quality board at best , the most you can do with it is a fx 6300 maybe pushed to 4ghz but in essence its not really going to be worth a $100 spend IMO.
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Yes, that cpu is slow compared to todays entry standards. Wait for someone who is knowledgeable in AMD line. But i don't think you have much choice in upgrading CPU without buying a new motherboards.

What is your GPU?
 
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Post your system hardware. We don't care about dxdiag.

If that is a 970 based motherboard they arn't the best overclockers. The 990 based boards are better. As for heat what cooler are you using. I found the stock AMD cooler barely kept up under full load of gaming. My water cooler works amazing. I have an EKWB predator on and AMD 8350 and it's amazing.

We need to know what GPU, PSU, etc... You say 200 series but not which model.

AMD are CPU intensive. That AMD CPU isn't terrible but a Skylake with an I5 would definitely be faster. But if your GPU is terrible then that CPU will work and a new GPU would be better.

Also what do you do with the computer? If your a gamer that's one thing, but productivity is another.
 
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That motherboard is a g43 or g46 ???

Stay clear of water coolers , you need active vrm cooling on that board so a down blower is necessary.
Also the most I'd dream of running would be a fx 6300, its unsuitable for 125w CPU's.

Have no idea what your gpu is , there are over a dozen models in the r7 200 series.
The fact it's an r7 means it can only be at best a 265 though.
 
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Hello all

I've been very busy these last few days so I haven't been very prompt. As for the things people have been asking for:

GPU: dxdiag says its the AMD Radeon R7 200 series but after looking at the card itself in my computer (which doesn't say what it is) I've determined its actually http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202161&cm_re=AMD_Radeon_R9_270X-_-14-202-161-_-Product . This looks EXACTLY like the card in my computer so I'm sure its it.

Motherboard: I'm not sure how to determine what board this is, but just looking at it the pieces of information I have are a tag that says 970A-G46. The amazon account I used to buy all my hardware was borrowed and I've forgotten the password so looking through the history is no help.

CPU Cooler: I'm pretty sure its the stock AMD one. I've actually noticed since I made the original post that its running much quieter because I air canned the shit out of it and cleared out a bunch of dust bunnies that were behind the fan but in front of the grill.

PSU: Antec 620

If there is any other info you may need I'd be more than happy to provide it hopefully faster than last time. Thank you!

 
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A 620w antec is going to be an earthwatts or an hcg so there's no real issue there at all.

Your GPU is throwing me , the 270/270x are r9 cards not r7.

Download gpu-z
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

It'll tell you exactly what your card is.

As I said before the g46 isn't any good for anything past a 6300, lower base clock, more cores.
Better CPU but not substantially just for gaming.
 
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Then there's no real bottleneck in your system mate.

What you have is a fairly solid medium setting gaming rig.

There's no real vang for buck upgrade path for you.

You can spend $200 & drop a 380 or 960 in there to push for high settings should you wish but whether its worth the outlay is upto you.

Like I said before the g46 is a mediocre quality board at best , the most you can do with it is a fx 6300 maybe pushed to 4ghz but in essence its not really going to be worth a $100 spend IMO.
 
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Yeah.. I've been thinking about it and I'm able to run all the games I like to play with nice enough framerates and the noise problem was solved with a can of air. I think I might overhaul my cooling set up to make sure it doesn't start screaming again during the hot months but all in all I'm satisfied. No reason to spend money when what you've got is good enough! Thank you for helping out!
 
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What I would do in all honesty is drop in bios & disable turbo core completely.
Its not worth having it enabled for a 100mhz boost on 2 cores & a 500mhz down clock on the other 2 cores (which is what it does) while pushing a stupid amount of extra voltage.

disabling it will leave your CPU both cooler & quieter with no performance impact, you nay find it actually stabilises performance more if anything.
 
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