Is it a good moment to buy a CPU? Or a new computer from scratch?

superman2233 · Apr 27, 2016

Hi, i wanted to upgrade my motherboard cause its limiting my ram and ssd speeds. (only supports 1333 mhz ram and only has one sata 6gb/s) and also my CPU is getting older.
If i change my motherboard i will have to buy one of the newest, which they use the 1151 socket and DDR4 ram (i dont know if DDR4 ram is much better)
And currently waiting for the next gen nvidia cards to come out in june.
So, it is a good moment to build a new gaming pc? (motherboard, cpu, ram) Or are there new CPUs or GPUs that will come in the near future that wont fit or be supported in a motherboard bought in may due to socket changes?

I currently have:
i5-2310 1150 socket
Radeon HD 7770 1gb GPU
8gb x 1 1600mhz ram (pny xlr8)
1tb HDD and 120gb SSD 840 evo

maikutech · Apr 27, 2016

Whats your motherboard name and model number ?

Ryan_78 · Apr 27, 2016

If you want to go, then just get a new PC. Keep hdd and SSD, and then just wait for new gpus to come out by then get a pin older maxwell card. People will be selling them for les, unless you want a new GPU. Plus a good 6600k/6700k.

Eximo · Apr 27, 2016

Shouldn't be any major CPU releases up and coming, unless you want to pick up Broadwell E, but that is a rather expensive proposition.

An i5 Skylake with DDR4 is a better option to replace an i5. I would normally say to just replace the CPU with a 3rd gen i5-3570 or something, but you mention the motherboard doesn't meet your needs.

You should go ahead and upgrade the core system and wait for a GPU release.

The onboard graphics on the skylake chips actually comes fairly close to an HD7770, though you could just use that card temporarily.

superman2233 · Apr 27, 2016

maikutech :

Gigabyte GA-H61M-D2P-B3.
I had it for almost 5 years is not bad at all, but is limiting me to use older intel CPUs, not using sata 6gb/s with my SSD and not letting my ram run at full speed.

superman2233 · Apr 27, 2016

Eximo :

Is it worth it to get a motherboard with DDR4 ram? does it change something while gaming?

superman2233 · Apr 27, 2016

Also i dont know if i should change the power supply, it works perfectly but it only has one 6-pin connector for the GPU and newer GPUs use 8-pin connectors or 2x 6-pin conectors.
I have seen adapters to change the 6-pin to a 8-pin but i dont know if it will give enought power to the GPU.

maikutech · Apr 27, 2016

superman2233 :

Hmm I see why you need the upgrade, I don't think its that critical to jump to a new LGA socket.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130700
The cpu for 175.99 that would be a great upgrade past your current i3.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00CO8TA4I/ref=sr_1_8_olp?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1461782644&sr=1-8&keywords=lga+1150+quad+core&condition=used

If you feel your current radeon isn't enough, look into the current gpu's

http://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-DisplayPort-Graphics-ZT-90601-10L/dp/B013P30O54/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1461782830&sr=1-1&keywords=zotac+gtx+950

Just those 3 items I listed, you could go ahead and plan a rebuild of your computer and sell out your old parts.

Also you can do it all at once or do like I do and upgrade the system through out the year and look for good steal bargins.

Personally the LGA 1150 socket is pretty good plus it has many other options to choose from before going skylake lga 1151.

superman2233 · Apr 27, 2016

maikutech :

superman2233 :

Hmm I see why you need the upgrade, I don't think its that critical to jump to a new LGA socket.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130700
The cpu for 175.99 that would be a great upgrade past your current i3.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00CO8TA4I/ref=sr_1_8_olp?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1461782644&sr=1-8&keywords=lga+1150+quad+core&condition=used

If you feel your current radeon isn't enough, look into the current gpu's

http://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-DisplayPort-Graphics-ZT-90601-10L/dp/B013P30O54/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1461782830&sr=1-1&keywords=zotac+gtx+950

Just those 3 items I listed, you could go ahead and plan a rebuild of your computer and sell out your old parts.

Also you can do it all at once or do like I do and upgrade the system through out the year and look for good steal bargins.

Personally the LGA 1150 socket is pretty good plus it has many other options to choose from before going skylake lga 1151.

Actually its LGA1155, my bad.

superman2233 · Apr 27, 2016

I found this motherboard: http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-LGA1151-Intel-Motherboard-GA-H110M-S2HP/dp/B01717V8XC/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1461771711&sr=8-15&keywords=gigabyte+motherboard

And this CPU: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-I5-6600-FC-LGA14C-Processor-BX80662I56600/dp/B0136JONRM/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1461787361&sr=1-1&keywords=i5+6600

And this ram: http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-2133MHz-Non-ECC-HX421C14FBK2-16/dp/B00TY6A1LY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461787163&sr=8-1&keywords=ddr4+ram

What do you think? Are this components compatible?

Eximo · Apr 27, 2016

That is a powerful CPU and should be good for years to come.

The motherboard is an interesting choice. Lot of USB 3.1 but it lacks some other LGA1151 basics like M.2 compatibility or support for faster memory. You are complaining about DDR3 1333, but DDR4 2133 is basically the same equivalent. To get the same latency you would actually need DDR4 2666 at CAS 14 to compete with DDR3 1333 at CAS 7. Kind of a trade off, the DDR4 has more bandwidth either way though.

If you are fine with ~500 MB/s ACHI SSDs and not being able to do RAID configs it should be fine.

Normally I would pair an i5-6600 or i5-6500 with an H170 board, or even a Z170 board just for SLI (though being MicroATX that is a bit much)

superman2233 · Apr 27, 2016

Eximo :

I will consider the H170 board, but im on a limited budget.
My main complain with my actual motherboard is the compatibility with newer components and that my CPU is not powerful enough for the newer GPUs. I cant change the CPU without changing the motherboard, and if i change the motherboard i have to change the ram, cause that CPU doesnt have support for DDR3.

Eximo · Apr 27, 2016

LGA1155 has plenty of options. With a simple BIOS reflash you could probably run anything up to an i7-3770. Even without one an i7-2600 would drop right in. Easy to confirm with the motherboard model, only made the upgrade suggestion with a new board because you seem to be dissatisfied with the board's features.

Even a second gen i3 is not that terrible, I would say anything up to a GTX960 or R9-370 wouldn't have much of a problem. If you are looking at Pascal or Polaris as a GPU replacement, keep in mind they will release the flagship cards first, so you would be looking at $300-500 for a GPU, probably towards the end of the year the more mid-range cards will be available.

superman2233 · Apr 27, 2016

Eximo :

My next trip to USA is in september, if they dont release like a "gtx 1070" or a "gtx 1060" i will buy the gtx 970, the price will drop for sure.

maikutech · Apr 27, 2016

If I were you check here weekly if he gets his hands on it you should know by late august if you want the GTX1080 by then.
https://www.youtube.com/user/techtomorrow

Eximo · Apr 28, 2016

Nvidia GPU prices tend to stay relatively static with new releases, they just price the new cards a little high on release day and it takes a few weeks for competition to lower them.

AMD makes a lot more adjustments with their resellers.

cbag · Apr 28, 2016

Dude, with your current mobo you can drop in a Core i7-3770K. That's really good CPU. Here's your CPU support list: http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=3774

Just get a PCI-E expansion card for more SATA slots for more hard drives.

maikutech · Apr 28, 2016

cbag :

I'll agree with that 3770k is one chip I love to have early next year and its quite performer.
However though the skylake he listed is 10% better than the 3770k.
If he doesn't mind laying down the money I suggest he just plan on a rebuild.
It wouldn't even be that costly for the time being until all manufacturers start to jack up the prices towards the end of july.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-6600K

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