Where do you think I am getting latency from when I game online?

Guest · Apr 27, 2016

Okay, so here's the problem. When I am playing Battlefield 4 online I die as soon as I see an enemy. I have absolutely no time to aim down sights. If feels like the enemy is seeing me 2-3 seconds before I see them. I started to post this question on the BF4 forum but those people are extremely dismissive of people having problems if they don't have a 2 kd and up (i have an 1.55 kd and I usually have 19 accuracy when I'm not having this latency problem but when I do it can drop as low as 10). If you don't know what I am talking about watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkQDtOYim6M and go to the 1:10 mark.

I don't think my equipment is the problem since I bought everything new. I have an i5 4690k overclocked at 4.2 ghz. I have 2 970's is sli, no overclock. I have the game running on an ssd. I have a Logitech proteus mouse and red switch strafe keyboard. I'm using a dvi cable and I have some turtle beach 450's. I get an average of 140 something fps most of the time.

When I am playing the game nothing I do is delayed it just feels as if I am seconds behind or the enemy is seconds ahead of me. I also would like to add that I have tried playing on low and high and I still have the latency problem.

The only thing I see that could be causing this crap is my internet. My internet is 22 download and 2 upload. Some people say my internet is fine and others say I need better internet so I'm not sure which one it is. The provider is AT&T if that matters. I'm also using an Ethernet cable from Walmart. Should I go and get an industrial Ethernet cable instead? I called my internet provider yesterday and they weren't very helpful. All they did was have me unplug my router and do a speed test (stuff that I'd already been doing).

Does anyone have any tips or suggestions that I can try?

bratShone · Apr 27, 2016

https://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=6653

i had some internet connectivity issues and i followed this solution. it works out just fine for me!

cheers

Eximo · Apr 27, 2016

You would notice if you had a bad ethernet cable. They are rarely intermittent, and you would get disconnect or time out errors all the time.

You can check actual latency by running tracert against the IP of the servers you are playing on. This will tell you how many other IPs you are filtered through. Each IP will represent a router, repeater, or other network device. This take time to process and route packets, usually measured in nanoseconds, but they do add up over a long distance. There could be an issue somewhere between you and the server that your ISP could investigate.

2Mbps should be enough for online gaming. Download speed is not critically important, not that much coming down. What is more important is consistency.

Graphics wise:

Playing at 60Hz will give you at best a 16.67ms visual input lag. Meaning it will take that long for the screen to be drawn, you as a person have an average reaction time of anywhere between 200 and 250 ms.
V-sync will add significant input lag. Then the GPU waits for the start of a refresh cycle before providing a finished frame.

Game engines have net code, so what you see on the screen may not represent actual player positions at the time you react. Basically they calculate the intersecting trajectories of things like bullets to determine whether you have hit the target or not. This is often the explanation for "how did you shoot me when you were facing the other way". They weren't, your game engine just didn't have enough up to date information to render and display the character facing the right direction.

Probably some more information that can be tossed at the subject, but you really have to figure out where the problem is in the first place.

Guest · Apr 27, 2016

Eximo :

You would notice if you had a bad ethernet cable. They are rarely intermittent, and you would get disconnect or time out errors all the time.

You can check actual latency by running tracert against the IP of the servers you are playing on. This will tell you how many other IPs you are filtered through. Each IP will represent a router, repeater, or other network device. This take time to process and route packets, usually measured in nanoseconds, but they do add up over a long distance. There could be an issue somewhere between you and the server that your ISP could investigate.

2Mbps should be enough for online gaming. Download speed is not critically important, not that much coming down. What is more important is consistency.

Graphics wise:

Playing at 60Hz will give you at best a 16.67ms visual input lag. Meaning it will take that long for the screen to be drawn, you as a person have an average reaction time of anywhere between 200 and 250 ms.
V-sync will add significant input lag. Then the GPU waits for the start of a refresh cycle before providing a finished frame.

Game engines have net code, so what you see on the screen may not represent actual player positions at the time you react. Basically they calculate the intersecting trajectories of things like bullets to determine whether you have hit the target or not. This is often the explanation for "how did you shoot me when you were facing the other way". They weren't, your game engine just didn't have enough up to date information to render and display the character facing the right direction.

Probably some more information that can be tossed at the subject, but you really have to figure out where the problem is in the first place.

Are you saying I should be playing at 60 hz instead of 144hz? I thought 144hz was better because that's what I play at.

Guest · Apr 27, 2016

bratShone :

I'll try it out man. Thanks.

bratShone · Apr 27, 2016

give it a try, i play WOT and i have ping like 30ms but delay every 4 secs...i did that and now its all ok

Guest · Apr 27, 2016

bratShone :

I have to re-download the game since I deleted it. I'll let you know how it runs tomorrow. I just got through doing some test and I still got garbage performance. I only had one game without the latency and went 20-10. I believe the problem lies with my internet. Thanks for the responses either way.

Eximo · Apr 28, 2016

Eximo :

Are you saying I should be playing at 60 hz instead of 144hz? I thought 144hz was better because that's what I play at.

Not at all, just throwing out ideas. 144hz on a good monitor reduces input lag and response time significantly, if not drastically.

Guest · Apr 28, 2016

Eximo :

Not at all, just throwing out ideas. 144hz on a good monitor reduces input lag and response time significantly, if not drastically.

It's been fixed man and it was something so so so simple. All I had to do was update my killer Ethernet, lol. My accuracy has went up and all my games have been 2 kd and up. I even did so well in one server that I got kicked and banned.

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