How to remove dust filter on Thermaltake Commander MS-I case?

QuantumLord

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Hello. I bought 2 Corsair AF120 Quiet Edition LED fans 2 weeks ago. I installed one of it into the bottom of my case (unfiltered), and the other one to the front (filtered). However I noticed something after I installed it. While the bottom fan was blowing air, the front fan didn't! I placed my hand where they were supposed to blow air, I couldn't feel the front fan blowing any air in(although it as running at full speed/12V). I took out my front panel and blew as strong as I could, but I noticed that only a little bit of air was going in (roughly 25-30% of what it should be). So I plan to remove it and change it with another filter that doesn't restrict the airflow that much (maybe a homemade one such as a pantyhose etc.). Does anyone have knowledge about this case? Can I remove the dust filter? If I can't what should I do then? Any suggestion is welcome.
 
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Maybe held on with magnets? Or it slides out. Or the case manufacturer has changed the laws of physics and generated a tiny gravity well that holds it on.
You should usually set your fans up to move air so that all intake air comes through a filter - in other words, the front fans are usually intake fans. In that case you often cannot feel the air movement on the intake side of a fan. While the air filter may *slightly* reduce the amount of air the fan can move, it will significantly reduce the amount of dust-build-up inside your case. Dust build-up affects cooling more than the slightly reduced airflow.

 

QuantumLord

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Thanks for the reply but I can't feel any air moving when I place my hand inside of the case too. I move my hand as close as possible (inside the case) to the front fan but still nothing. There is another fan placed at top as an intake fan too. I think the "pc-guy" who built my pc did that because of the horrible cable management he did. That is unfiltered too. Also I cannot change its direction because of the * screws he used.
 

USAFRet

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1. Use a piece of tissue paper to determine the direction it is blowing.
2. Fans generally go:
In the front and bottom
Out the top and back
 

QuantumLord

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Thanks USAFRet. But I see that I couldn't express my problem very well. My problem isn't "the fan on the top that blows air in instead of taking the air out". It is: the dust filter in the front panel of the case blocks the airflow more than it should (I think). What can you suggest? Also I plan to remove and change it (if I can).
 

USAFRet

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The top fan blowing in IS a problem. But we can address that later.

For the front filter restricting the airflow...that would have to be a pretty tight weave.
As mentioned, instead of your hand, use a piece of tissue paper to determine airflow. Direction and strength.

And a dust filter almost has to be removable. After all, how do you clean it when it gets dirty?
 

QuantumLord

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Well I tried that method and the tissue seems to move more when the front panel (w/ dust filter) is removed. Also I can't seem to find any screws that hold the filter in place, I see just an un-removable looking metal "frame" that holds the filter in place. I can add some pictures if you want. (Approx. 2 hours later)
 

USAFRet

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Maybe held on with magnets? Or it slides out. Or the case manufacturer has changed the laws of physics and generated a tiny gravity well that holds it on.
 
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The PC I'm typing on has an older Fractal Define case I picked up on a sale around 2013. The front duct filter on that is a real PITA. If I recall, it's actually screwed to the fan or some such issue

 

QuantumLord

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I just realized that there are little bend-able mesh clips that hold the dust filter and the mesh that is surrounding it.



I don't want to drift away from this tread's topic but I need help about that top fan. The hole where you put the screwdriver's "head" on the screws that hold the fan in place are "washed away" I mean it's literally like a hole that makes screwing the screw impossible. So I can't change it's direction.

 

USAFRet

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For a stripped screw:
strippedscrew01_rect540-e1265807015459.jpg


Who put that fan in? Upside down and stripped the screw...:pfff:
 

QuantumLord

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What is that material between the screw and the screwdriver? And also I had a prebuilt with a i7 4790 and GT 730. I brought the case to a local "pc-guy". He changed the case (and the PSU) and the GPU (now a gtx 960) and transferred other components (HDD,RAM etc.) into this new case. I requested him to put an extra fan on the front because this case has only 1 fan as stock. But that ********* forgot to do cable management and because of the cables that clog the space between HDD and GPU he put the intake fan on the top for better air circulation I guess.
 

QuantumLord

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Currently there is only one stock exhaust fan located in the back (you know, above the PCI-e slots in the case), and 3 intake fans one in the bottom (unfortunately unfiltered), one in the front (I managed to remove the dust filter btw) and the controversial top fan.

 

USAFRet

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Once you get the screw situation figured out, flip that top one over. Blowing out.
 

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