Dual boot Win 7 and XP in newer motherboard (Haswell??)

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Hi,

I'm not a computer tech guy and I have a few questions as I'm planning to have a dual boot in my computer. My computer configuration right now is :

1. One Hard Disk (500 gb) become drive C and drive D
The drive C (100 gb) has Windows 7 Professional SP1 64 bit and currently is working normal.
The drive D (400 gb) is for Data.

2. One other Hard Disk (300 gb) as drive E , also for data.

DriveConfig.gif


My Gigabyte B85M-HD3 mobo has an integrated audio and graphic. RAM 2 x 4 gb.
The graphic is Intel HD 4600, The CPU is Intel i5-4460 but I don't know about the audio.
The connection is via HDMI cable from HD4600 output to my LG TV HDMI input.
Sound and display from the HD4600 HDMI output in my LG TV currently is working normal.

I still have : (which I used in XP SP2 32 bit before I move to Win7 )
1. an old PCI-E graphic card (with the driver)
2. an old PCI SB Live! Value (with the generic driver) sound card
3. Win XP SP2 installation CD

Now, I'm thinking to install XP SP2 OS into the drive E.

My plan is :
1. From Win7, format the drive E (the 300 gb one) and make it into two parts.
The first part is 20 gb reserve for XP SP2 OS installation
The second part (the rest, 280 gb) is for the data.

2. Disconnect the Hard Disk (the 500 gb one) that has Win7 OS.

3. Plug those two old cards into the mobo slot.

4. From the mobo bios setup choose to boot from CD-rom, then using the installation CD - install the XP SP2 into the 20 gb part.

5. After the XP installation finished, install the drivers needed for those old cards.

6. Turn off the computer, reconnect the 500 gb Hard Disk (the one with Win7 OS).


Now my first question : is the six step plan above correct ?
Assuming the answer is Yes, it's a correct steps ...
My following questions are :

1. Is there any difference if I format the 300gb Hard Disk
A. from Win7 ? (as mentioned in the step 1)
B. during the XP installation ?

2. Assuming I don't want to use the old graphic card, can Intel HD4600 graphic display on my LG TV via HDMI connection in default (without any drivers) during XP installation ?

3. After I reconnect the 500 gb Hard Disk,
a. will I be in Win7 OS if I choose to boot from the 500gb in the mobo bios setup ?
b. will I be in XP OS if I choose to boot from the 300gb in the mobo bios setup ?
c. whatever I choose what Hard Disk to boot in the mobo bios setup, the computer is confuse, freeze/hang, so I will be in nowhere OS :):) . What is the solution in this case ?

4. Assuming all works well,
when I'm in Win 7 OS - will it recognize the 300 gb hard disk ? (so I still can copy-paste data to the second partition of the 300 gb)
when I'm in XP OS - will it recognize the 500 gb hard disk ? (so I still can copy-paste data to the second partition of the 500 gb)

I'm very sorry for the long post and my broken English.
Any kind of help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advanced.

regards.
 
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theres sites out there that give driver work a rounds to force say 7 or vista drivers to xp ? but like you and I said ''with the consequences some devices not work''

why I use a AMD platform for my legacy gaming rig with XP - and like I said if getting a new graphics card the gtx 960 and 950 still get XP support from NVidia

''GeForce 900 Series:GeForce GTX 960, GeForce GTX 950''

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/102071/en-us

so it comes down to if you want / nreed everything working on it or 1/2 butt working I guess ??

good luck and enjoy
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seems like AM3+ is the last you can still get that supports all the way down to xp still [most amd will some fm2 will with certain hardware ] intel is more proprietary

then with a newer graphuics card only the NVidia gtx 960 /950 still has full XP support today [970 980 and 980 ti do not ]


you have to plan careful to what will work today with xp and still get full support
 
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Hi Emerald and junkeymonkey,

Thank you for your respond.

Just now I try to google about Haswell and yes most of the search result telling me just like you told me that there is no support Haswell chipset for XP.

But there is one article saying that it is still possible to install XP with Haswell chipset. The title of this article is "Installing Windows XP on a modern unsupported (Haswell) system in 2016".

Would it be OK if I ask a few question about that article here ?

Thank you once again.

regards.

EDIT :
I just check my computer in Device Manager.
DriveConfig2.gif


From the picture above, does that mean something to you ?
The Hard Disks are ST500 and WD3200
(I'm sorry that I forget to unplug the other two USB devices).
 
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Here are some pictures of what is inside my Gigabyte B85M-HD3 bios :

xBios_F12.jpg

When the computer starts, after I pressed F12 - the bios offered me just like the picture above.
ST500 hard disk is where the Windows 7 installed.
WD320 hard disk, there is no OS at all there.
I've tried to select the WD320 as the boot device hoping that the computer will hang/freeze ....
but it turned out it's still run and then brought me in to the Windows 7 OS :).


xBios_Feature1.jpg

In the Bios Feature tab, the [Boot Option #1] menu doesn't have WD320 in the list, only the ST500 there. But inside the [Hard Drive BBS priorities] menu ....


xBios_Feature2.jpg

Inside the [Hard Drive BBS priorities] menu, both the Boot Option #1 and the Boot Option #2 gives me the choice to select between ST500 and WD320 as seen on the picture above.
I don't understand why it is different ?


Next picture is the Boot Mode Selection under [Windows 8 Features] :
xBios_Feature3.jpg

xBios_Feature4.jpg

As my OS is Windows 7, I don't know if this [Windows 8 Features] has an effect or not.


Next picture is the [Sata Configuration] menu inside the Peripherals tab :
xBios_PeripSataConfig.jpg



Finally, the next picture is in the Save&Exit tab :
xBios_SaveExit.jpg

Here, it offers me a [Boot Override] menu with the selection ST500 and WD320.
I haven't tried it yet as I don't understand what does it mean [Boot Override].


I hope the pictures above can give something to my reader to make it easier to help me.
Thank you.
 
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It turn out we still can install Windows XP in the newer Haswell motherboard, at least in my case with B85M-HD3 Gigabyte motherboard and the XP installation is to the second hard disk, with the consequences some devices not work. Last night I was able to install it.

The process is not complicated.
After trial and error many times, within my case, I concluded that we need to know :
1. the Win7 OS installed in the first hard disk is using MBR partition style, not GPT.
2. the Sata Configuration in the Bios Setup is already IDE, not AHCI.
3. also in the Bios Setup is already Legacy instead of UEFI.

The next step,
4. Format and make the partition to the second hard disk within Win7 OS via Disk Management and choose the default allocation unit size in the format dialog box, don't change it to 4096.
5. Unplug the first hard disk, let only the second hard disk attached to the motherboard.
6. Boot from the XP installation CD.
7. Install (without formatting the hard disk) to the second hard disk partition.

In my case, after succeeded the XP installation and turn off the computer, I plug my old sound card to the motherboard. Turn on the computer, go to Bios Setup then disable the on board Audio from the motherboard. Boot to the second hard disk. XP recognize the old sound card, then I install the drivers needed. Plug the mini RCA jack from my powered speakers to the blue hole on the sound card. Plug my Yamaha PSR music keyboard midi cable to the midi(game) port on the sound card. Everything went well :bounce:.

One thing that I don't understand, after I plug back the first hard disk (now the computer has two hard disks in it) - although the on board Audio is already disabled, but the sound still comes out in my TV speaker. I think this is maybe because I use the hdmi connection using HD Audio Display from the motherboard. I haven't tried to output the sound to the dedicated speakers via mini RCA jack, but I think the sound won't comes out to my powered speakers since I disabled the on board Audio.

The main point that I want to have XP to the second hard disk is that I still can play around with the MIDI things such as Sound Font, record midi music from the Yamaha keyboard to Cakewalk app, etc. It seems it won't be possible if I do that within Win7 as I've read from the internet that Win7 doesn't support midi/game port from the sound card, so my only option to play around the MIDI within Win7 is to buy a MIDI to USB cable which I'm not so sure that the cable will support 32 midi channel or not. Buying a new expensive standalone MIDI hardware interface is not my option.

I want to say thank you to all the posters who already help me here.
Thank you also for this tomshardware forum that help me a lot by reading some of the threads here.
I'm sorry for my broken English.

regards.
 
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theres sites out there that give driver work a rounds to force say 7 or vista drivers to xp ? but like you and I said ''with the consequences some devices not work''

why I use a AMD platform for my legacy gaming rig with XP - and like I said if getting a new graphics card the gtx 960 and 950 still get XP support from NVidia

''GeForce 900 Series:GeForce GTX 960, GeForce GTX 950''

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/102071/en-us

so it comes down to if you want / nreed everything working on it or 1/2 butt working I guess ??

good luck and enjoy
 
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Hi junkeymonkey,

Thank you for your respond.

Yes, some devices not work, such as the ethernet LAN, PCI controller, one more I don't remember. (there are 3 devices that not work in Win XP Device Manager, yellow exclamation mark).

Luckily, I don't need those devices - I don't feel that something is missing, because maybe I don't use the devices that are missing before when I was still in XP.

why I use a AMD platform for my legacy gaming rig with XP - and like I said if getting a new graphics card the gtx 960 and 950 still get XP support from NVidia
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For the time being, I used the "generic" video graphic from the mother board. I use XP just for playing around MIDI which need my old Sound Blaster card, so although the display is a bit laggy it's still OK for me. Later I will try to plug my old ATI Radeon GPU card.

so it comes down to if you want / nreed everything working on it or 1/2 butt working I guess ??
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Ya... it's 1/2 working, but because I don't use those devices that are missing - it made me feel that the XP is full working :D

good luck and enjoy
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Thank you junkeymonkey :)

regards.
 
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