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I have had this desktop with a 128 GB boot SSD drive - has been working fine for over a year. But of late, the BIOS seems to have trouble recognizing the drive - sometimes it will boot into Windows 7 and in the middle of working, it will hang and then give me a bootmgr missing screen.

When I go into the BIOS, it won't recognize the boot drive. I have to power off the machine, then when I power it on again, it will recognize the drive, which I have to then make the boot drive again, before Windows will boot. If it was once or twice, I would have written it off as a anamoly but it is now happening frequently.

Any suggestions? Thoughts? Everything else seems to be working fine - and everything was working fine till recently. I have not updated or made any changes to the BIOS.
 
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And further, just because somebody has been working on computers for 30 years, does not mean they've been doing it right or know what they're talking about. I know plenty of career carpenters and plumbers that have been steadily employed in the field for longer than that and continuously use methods that are neither sound nor acceptable. And the same can be said for PC hardware and systems administration.

Even in this article, which I think was one of the most exhaustive reviews of the pros and cons of using the pagefile, the author in the end says this:

So, would you recommend I run without a pagefile?

No.

Why?

Because you have to test it yourself to find out.

IMHO the average user (who is not going to test it) is...
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change sata cables and ports..... if that doesn't fix it your drive is failing and time for a new one. one question for you, did you turn off pagefile so windows wouldn't kill the drive with all the read / writes?
 
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Thanks, I will change the cable/port this weekend when I have the time and report back if things changed. Otherwise I guess I am shopping for another SSD.. not sure if my MB has M.2 ports as this would give me the option of getting M.2 drives too...
 
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I have been in business for 30 years and turning off the pagefile does save the drive, and the drive is so fast you don't need to slow it down by having a pagefile. and Evolve don't ever do that to me again, I been doing this since before you were born and every manufacturer of ssd's recommend turning off the pagefile for boot drives. I don't care if you are a moderator or not, you are rude....offer your own suggestion, don't call me ut all over the boards...jerk
 
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I've been using computers since the Apple 2e in about 1980 so I don't know why you think you have been doing anything longer than I've been alive? :??: I also started using solid state drives very early and I still have both an OCZ Vertex 2 and an old Samsung OEM SSD that doesn't even support TRIM it's so old. Both drives are in perfect health. Never turned off the pagefile on any computer using either drive. Will it decease life? Maybe from 50 years to 49.

Turning off the pagefile will also cause all sort of problems especially if you don't have at least 8GB of RAM something the OP didn't mention and you didn't ask. There are programs that will fail to run or crash without a page file. What SSD manufacturers really recommend is to set the pagefile to the system managed minimum size. It doesn't matter though. The drives and their interfaces will be long obsolete before you see any degradation in performance.

Ban you? No. But I suggest you educate yourself a bit and leave the misconceptions from last decade behind before telling people you know what you're talking about. ;)
 
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No, they don't all recommend turning it off.
Reduce the size, maybe, just to save drive space. Depending on RAM. But a few things do actually need a pagefile of some sort.


And the concept of killing an SSD with too many writes is long past in normal use. No longer a concern.
http://us.hardware.info/reviews/4178/10/hardwareinfo-tests-lifespan-of-samsung-ssd-840-250gb-tlc-ssd-updated-with-final-conclusion-final-update-20-6-2013
http://techreport.com/review/26058/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-data-retention-after-600tb

 
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The pagefile misconception comes from the early days of solid state when drives were tiny compared to today and was more about space savings than anything. Just like turning off hibernation and system restore.
 
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And further, just because somebody has been working on computers for 30 years, does not mean they've been doing it right or know what they're talking about. I know plenty of career carpenters and plumbers that have been steadily employed in the field for longer than that and continuously use methods that are neither sound nor acceptable. And the same can be said for PC hardware and systems administration.

Even in this article, which I think was one of the most exhaustive reviews of the pros and cons of using the pagefile, the author in the end says this:

So, would you recommend I run without a pagefile?

No.

Why?

Because you have to test it yourself to find out.

IMHO the average user (who is not going to test it) is best served by leaving the pagefile at its default setting of System Managed size.
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https://tweakhound.com/2011/10/10/the-windows-7-pagefile-and-running-without-one/


And that was back in the Windows 7 days before the newer SSDs that have immensely larger capacities and far longer lifespans than they did back then. In fact, the majority of recent articles have indicated that in most cases with SSDs that are newer, meaning probably the last two years or so, the expected lifespans of the SSD are probably greater than that of current consumer hard drives.

Also, not every SSD manufacturer recommends that. Samsung Magician specifically recommends leaving it enabled for maximum performance to maximize the amount of available system memory. And yes, I double checked just to be sure.
 
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