Will my new gaming rig have a BOTTLENECK?

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Hello to all pros here. I have selected AMD FX 6300 BLACK EDITION (6cores) as my CPU and a GTX 960 AMP EDITON GDDR5 2GB gpu. I want to know if at all my CPU will bottleneck my GPU or vice-versa. Further I will be having a DDR3 RAM module (clocked near 1600-1800Mhz). All comments for help will be appreciated :)
 
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I would also agree with the above ^ that it's a dead platform and most importantly that the 6300 is essentially EOL. Your only upgrade on the same chipset is an FX 8350, as you need a specific motherboard and CPU cooler to grab the power-hungry mongrel that is the 9590/9350.

Tbh I would go with a Skylake i3. i3s for the most part beat the 6xxx series until you get to games that utilize the 6xxx's 6 cores, whereas the i3 only has a dual core-hyperthreaded setup. And even then, the i3s are on par with the 6xxx chips, with a plethora of upgrade paths in Skylake and the upcoming Kaby lake, as that's going to be on the same motherboard socket.
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DDR4 not compatible with FX 6xxx series, but I assume that was a typo for DDR3. Depends on what games you play, that CPU could easily bottleneck you in something like Fallout 4 or possibly GTA. You'll be better off with the 6300 than the processor I'm running because you're on Piledriver with a faster base clock, but the CPU could potentially bottleneck it in newer AAA CPU intensive games.
 
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Much thanks to all. Sorry I meant to say I plan on using a DDR3 RAM (not a DDR4 RAM). Genthug, I am a noob here so care to explain what 'PILEDRIVER' is? And the 6300 isn't powerful enough for fallout 4 and GTA 5?
 
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AMD Piledriver Family 15h is a microarchitecture developed by AMD as the second-generation successor to Bulldozer. It targets desktop, mobile and server markets. It is used for the AMD Accelerated Processing Unit (formerly Fusion), AMD FX, and the Opteron line of processors.

The changes over Bulldozer are incremental. Piledriver uses the same "module" design. Its main improvements are to branch prediction and FPU/integer scheduling, along with a switch to hard-edge flip-flops to improve power consumption. This resulted in clock speed gains of 8–10% and a performance increase of around 15% with similar power characteristics.[1] FX-9590 is around 30–35% faster than Bulldozer-based FX-8150, mostly because of higher clock speed.

Products based on Piledriver were first released on 15 May 2012 with the AMD Accelerated Processing Unit (APU), code-named Trinity, series of mobile products.[2] APUs aimed at desktops followed in early October 2012 with Piledriver-based FX-series CPUs released later in the month.[3][4] Opteron server processors based upon Piledriver were announced in early December 2012.[5]

Part of the problem is that it's an older architecture, and a dead platform.
 
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Bulldozer and Piledriver are AMD terms for their processor series, Bulldozer runs on Zambezi architecture, Piledriver runs on Vishera architecture (they're just names). Piledriver has roughly a 25% increase in processing power over Bulldozer, even though their base speeds aren't all that different. So, if you had a Bulldozer CPU running at 3Ghz and a Piledriver CPU running at 3Ghz, the Piledriver CPU would run faster, even though their base clock speeds are the same.

I would have to do testing on that, but my overclocked 6100 bottlenecks Fallout 4 and GTA. Granted, my bottleneck occurs when I'm hitting 40-50 FPS on average, so it's not exactly a huge deal, but it's still a bottleneck. That does not mean in any way that you won't be able to play it, you 100% will be able to play it.
 
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I would also agree with the above ^ that it's a dead platform and most importantly that the 6300 is essentially EOL. Your only upgrade on the same chipset is an FX 8350, as you need a specific motherboard and CPU cooler to grab the power-hungry mongrel that is the 9590/9350.

Tbh I would go with a Skylake i3. i3s for the most part beat the 6xxx series until you get to games that utilize the 6xxx's 6 cores, whereas the i3 only has a dual core-hyperthreaded setup. And even then, the i3s are on par with the 6xxx chips, with a plethora of upgrade paths in Skylake and the upcoming Kaby lake, as that's going to be on the same motherboard socket.
 
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It will depend on the games.
But there's no way around this: do not invest in the dead and burried AM3+ platform these days. Get an i3 6100. It will serve you better and it's on a state-of-the-art platform that permits an upgrade later on when needed(right now, taht cpu will not even bottleneck a 970, let alone a 960. Just don't. Period. :)
 
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Redundant answer is redundant.

Yeah I understand I will have a upgrade path but will I be able to upgrade it to i5 or i7 in the same socket?
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You'll be able to put:
  • Skylake Pentiums
    Skylake i3s
    Skylake i5s
    Skylake i7s
    Kaby lake Pentiums (if they come out, I assume they will)
    Kaby lake i3s
    Kaby lake i5s
    Kaby lake i7s
All in the 1151 socket.
 
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Page wasn't updated. Obviously i hadn't seen your answers ;)
 
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