Looking to upgrade from windows 7 ultimate pirated to clean install of windows 10

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taylw006

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I purchased a system off of ebay a year back, and just noticed that the copy of windows 7 ultimate was not genuine due to a program called "Win_Loader_2.2.2" being in my downloads folder. It is currently using a copy of windows 7 ultimate (OEM) and i would like to clean install to windows 10 as the SSD is beginning to get cluttered with junk. What's the best way to upgrade for preferably the least money / hassle and without the risk of being unable to use my computer

Thanks for any help in advanced. If any more information is required then please reply asking for it!
 
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SkyNetRising is correct and incorrect. He's correct that having the download doesn't necessarily make your copy pirated. But he's incorrect in assuming it will show as tampered with, or 'Not Genuine' if it is pirated. Win Loader fools Windows into thinking the copy is genuine (I know 2 different people who have used it successfully) and when you upgrade from pirated Win7 Ultimate it will be a genuine copy of Win10 Pro (both of those people did it and have had no problems). Your concern that it will be discovered later that you upgraded from a pirated copy is unfounded because the copy of Win10 you upgrade to will not only be a genuine copy, it will reissue you a new Windows Registration Key. So unless they forensically dissect your...
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SkyNetRising is correct and incorrect. He's correct that having the download doesn't necessarily make your copy pirated. But he's incorrect in assuming it will show as tampered with, or 'Not Genuine' if it is pirated. Win Loader fools Windows into thinking the copy is genuine (I know 2 different people who have used it successfully) and when you upgrade from pirated Win7 Ultimate it will be a genuine copy of Win10 Pro (both of those people did it and have had no problems). Your concern that it will be discovered later that you upgraded from a pirated copy is unfounded because the copy of Win10 you upgrade to will not only be a genuine copy, it will reissue you a new Windows Registration Key. So unless they forensically dissect your backed up copy of Win7 that the upgrade to Win10 will create, they can't tell if the copy you came from was legit or not.

Also, Microsoft came out and said that this was their intention because they wanted to get as many pirated copies of their older OS's back to being legitimate as they could.
 
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A customer of mine bought a PC on e-Bay and noted that the system was Activated and shown as being genuine. Six months later the desktop went black and the message appears that this copy is not genuine. They didn't pirate a copy but they had to buy their way out of trouble to get full functionality back.

That happened last Summer MadJoe75 and you reckon MS is going to let people with pirated copies upgrade to 10 when innocent folks have to pay the ransome? I doubt it and I wonder how many of them haven't risked finding out the hard way.

MS is moving towards a rental system and everyone who wants to keep their copy will have to pay for the following year as well as having their data harvested and sold to the highes bidder.

Thanks Goodness for Linux.
 
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MadJoe75

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Saga Lout here is the link: http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/03/19/why-microsoft-is-giving-away-windows-10-to-pirates/#5a79218ebe77

Although you're partially right because they did come back after and say if your copy is improperly licensed at upgrade, it will still be improperly licensed after upgrade and there will be mechanisms to get genuine Windows 10. However if taylw006's copy says it's genuine on the website provided by SkyNetRising it will upgrade without any issue, so this conversation could be moot.

I don't know anything about their plans to go to a subscription (rental) model for Windows, but I have a feeling if true, they will quickly turn back to the old way due to customer pushback. Only time will tell, though.
 
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Microsoft says free Windows 10 upgrades for pirates will be ‘non-genuine’ and unsupported, stays mum on security
http://venturebeat.com/2015/03/19/microsoft-says-free-windows-10-upgrades-for-pirates-will-be-non-genuine-and-unsupported-stays-mum-on-security/
“With Windows 10, although non-genuine PCs may be able to upgrade to Windows 10, the upgrade will not change the genuine state of the license,” a Microsoft spokesperson told VentureBeat.

Microsoft Reiterates that Pirates Will Not Get Windows 10 for Free
https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/2190/sorry-microsoft-is-not-giving-free-windows-10-to-pirates
"If a device was considered non-genuine or mis-licensed prior to the upgrade, that device will continue to be considered non-genuine or mis-licensed after the upgrade.”

Illegal Windows installation remains illegal after Windows 10 update
http://www.myce.com/news/illegal-windows-installation-remains-illegal-after-windows-10-update-75439/
"Users won’t be able to convert their illegal installations to legal versions with an update to Windows 10, according to a statement from Microsoft to Ars Technica."
 
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Agree - my girlfriend had a dodgy copy of Win7 on her laptop which was activated with some sort of Windows Loader.

After much deliberation as to would it work or not she just updated it in the normal way via Windows Update. It updated itself to Win 10 with no issues whatsoever. Fully activated wirth a genuine product key.

Amazing but true - as Steve Wright would say!
 
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Thanks to everyone for the great advice! i have decided that i will give the upgrade a go on my ssd and unplug my hdd during the process just i. case. If all goes wrong i can boot from my HDD, clear most but the OS, and then clone back. If this happens i'll proably just buy a windows 7 cd for the best price i can get and go about it that way!


 
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you want to upgrade first from within windows to the drive youre currently using mate,before you think of doing a fresh install to your ssd.
This will give you the win 7 rollback option & will get you registerd on ms servers so a clean install afterwards is safer.

just burning a win 10 iso & installing fresh without upgrading your current win 7 wont work .
 
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That would be a good step forward. You had your free trial of Windows 7 and MS or one of its resellers will sell you a fairly inexpensive licence and you won't need to wonder every time you fire up, whether that it might be the day the desktop goes black. Then MS might want a higher price.

I don't want to preach about this but there are folks out there who steal something from the Net but would be horrified at the suggestion of walking into a store and lifting a product off the shelf and walking out without paying for it. It's easy to see the Net as a place where normal behaviour is unnecessary but a crime is a crime in the virtual world as much as the real one.

It's not as though there aren't hundreds of flavours of a well-known highly efficient operating system that won't cost you a penny.
 
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