Building my own gaming pc from scratch

Dafano

Commendable
May 4, 2016
20
0
1,510
Hi guys,

I'm building my own gaming pc from scratch. I was wondering if it's best to buy a boxed processor or a tray. What's best when building a gaming pc from scratch? What are the differences? And is it best to buy a cooler separately if i buy a boxed processor?

If you have tips or advice to build a gaming pc just leave a comment.

Thanks
Lucan
 
Solution
That;s true, but I'm still not fully understanding your budget to recommend the best use of your funds.
Your dad was buying your Windows & monitor, now you're factoring in Windows - previously you were factoring in Windows &/or a monitor.

If you're still at 800EUR for the tower itself, the 6500 + H170 + R9 390 is the best you can do. I'd definitely recommend you take the SeaSonic S12II 620W though for a little added headroom .

An H110 motherboard will be fine and save your a bit.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (€202.26 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€59.23 @ Mindfactory)...

Dafano

Commendable
May 4, 2016
20
0
1,510

So is the intel core i5-4690 processor good? And what's the difference between the 4690K and the regular 4690?

 

CV_Taihou

Reputable
Dec 3, 2015
649
1
5,165
The 4690K is able to be overclocked provided the motherboard supports overclocking, the regular 4690 cannot be OC'd. That said at this point there's not really much reason to go with older parts when the price of the much newer Skylake series CPU's has come down
 

Dafano

Commendable
May 4, 2016
20
0
1,510


Thx! What processor would you recommend then for a gaming pc? Is it worth it to overclock my processor?
 

CV_Taihou

Reputable
Dec 3, 2015
649
1
5,165


For a strictly gaming machine I'd usually go with an i5 of some sort. Games don't typically take advantage of hyperthreaded CPU's, so it's hard to justify the increased cost in my mind. Overclocking is completely up to you though. An i5-6500 is going to perform perfectly fine in virtually every gaming situation, so it kind of comes down to a question of budget. On an unlocked CPU from Skylake you need to purchase an additional CPU Cooler as the processor doesn't come with one. If budget isn't a huge factor I would personally go for an unlocked CPU and the right motherboard and keep my options open in case I wanted to overclock in the future
 

Dafano

Commendable
May 4, 2016
20
0
1,510


So if i buy the i5-6500 unlocked which cooler would you buy for it that is good enough if i overclock it?
 

Barty1884

Retired Moderator
**EDIT** OP removed the comment that the thread was closed.

Copy & Paste the form into this thread & complete it.


Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: this week (the closer the better)

Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400) Before / After Rebates; Before / After Shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (e.g.: Folding@Home, gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies)

Are you buying a monitor: Yes / No



Parts to Upgrade: (e.g.: CPU, mobo, RAM) **Include Power Supply Make & Model If Re-using**

Do you need to buy OS: Yes / No
Please note that if you're using an OEM license of Windows, you will need a new one when buying a new motherboard.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (e.g.: newegg.com, ncix.com -- to show us selection & pricing)

Location: City, State/Region, Country - we need to know where these parts are being assembled and whether there are good store-only deals available

Parts Preferences: by brand or type (e.g.: I would like to upgrade to Intel CPU)

Overclocking: Yes / No / Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Yes / No / Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: (e.g.: 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1440x900, 1600x1200, 1680x1050, 1920x1080, 1920x1200 or if you're upgrading please state what you'd want to get)

Additional Comments: (e.g.: Need to have a window and lots of bling, I would like a quiet PC. Please also list specific software or games you're using)

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: (e.g. I'm having trouble running game X or my PSU broke)
 

Dafano

Commendable
May 4, 2016
20
0
1,510




 

CV_Taihou

Reputable
Dec 3, 2015
649
1
5,165
I'll let someone else try for a build, but needing the OS and a monitor (not sure if you have keyboard and mouse yet either) really chews into the overall budget for the rest of the machine. It might be a better idea to hold off on the overclockable CPU and motherboard for the time being in order to save money to get a better GPU, as that's what's going to limit a lot of performance in a build
 

Dafano

Commendable
May 4, 2016
20
0
1,510


That's totally fine! The processor is good enough to play games like gta right? The mouse, keyboard, monitor and os don't really matter because i'm only paying for the pc itself. My dad will pay the monitor and stuff.
 

CV_Taihou

Reputable
Dec 3, 2015
649
1
5,165


Personally I'd go for a R9 390 over the GTX 970, since it tends to out perform the Nvidia card from my personal experience, but the 970 will perform great as well. (forgot to set it to Germany, but the price is virtually the same)

i5-6500 Build
 

Dafano

Commendable
May 4, 2016
20
0
1,510


If you can build a pc with a os or so within that price that runs games nicely it's ok? I don't need the best of the best for that price, if you can go lower and still have a really good gaming pc i'd rather have that.
 

Barty1884

Retired Moderator


That build isn't going to work, it's over 900EUR when you price it up for the OP, without the PSU. I know they didn't mind where it shipped from, but shipping/customs/import is going to add quite a bit to Belgium - I think sticking within the EU makes the most sense.



It really depends. An OS and monitor really eat away the budget quickly.

800EUR build, from Germany.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (€202.26 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: ASRock H170A-X1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€89.63 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (€53.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€89.39 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (€48.50 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card (€187.86 @ Mindfactory)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (€49.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€72.74 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €794.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-05 21:37 CEST+0200

No overclocking though.

If you wanted an OS & Monitor in there, you really drop the spec of the rig.

You'd still be able to game pretty well, the i3 is still a good CPU.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (€119.96 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€59.23 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (€28.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€49.77 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card (€187.86 @ Mindfactory)
Case: BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case (€36.70 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€66.90 @ Caseking)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) (€98.20 @ Mindfactory)
Monitor: Asus VS247HR 60Hz 23.6" Monitor (€129.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €777.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-05 21:41 CEST+0200

 

Dafano

Commendable
May 4, 2016
20
0
1,510


The shipping doesn't matter because my friend can pick the parts up in america or so, he's a pilot.
Both of the builds are nice, i'll have a good look later. thanks for the builds mate!
Can i run every game on the i3 processor? like gta?
 

Dafano

Commendable
May 4, 2016
20
0
1,510


Really nice build! i'll compare it with some other builds later. thanks mate!
 
How about this?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (€202.26 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2HP Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€69.77 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (€28.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€49.77 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (€329.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair Carbide SPEC-M2 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (€56.19 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€66.46 @ Mindfactory)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)
Total: €802.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-05 22:05 CEST+0200

The monitor doesn't need to be included in the €800, right? Just the OS?
You can probably buy it cheaper in the USA, but if you have a problem with any of the parts, it seems like it would be better to buy in your region.
 

Barty1884

Retired Moderator


The i3 is a Dual-Core + Hyperthreading, so you shouldn't have any issues.

If you have a friend who could actually collect in the US for you (and I'm assuming being a pilot, customs/import etc isn't too much of a concern), then that would be a substantially cheaper way to go about it - you'd get an even better build @ $900.

No rebates involved:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($193.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($72.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($33.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 390X 8GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case ($35.12 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $901.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-05 16:09 EDT-0400
 

Dafano

Commendable
May 4, 2016
20
0
1,510


That's a nice build too, Can you put a decent monitor with it? leave the rest as it is.

 
The i3 6100 is no slouch. Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJuadijvTSU

But the i5 will let you upgrade your GPU later without upgrading the CPU.

The monitor part numbers are different there, I think. This is an IPS monitor. I could find something less expensive if we need to.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (€202.26 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2HP Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€69.77 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (€28.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€49.77 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (€329.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair Carbide SPEC-M2 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (€56.19 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€66.46 @ Mindfactory)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)
Monitor: Asus VX239H 60Hz 23.0" Monitor (€182.81 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €985.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-05 22:27 CEST+0200
 

Dafano

Commendable
May 4, 2016
20
0
1,510


The i3 is good enough then, and can you get the cheapest good monitor for the build?