Ubuntu 9.10 to 16.04 LTS grows system requeriments

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Hello I have an Ubuntu 9.10 CD. I use it only in LIVE MODE for copy files from my Operating System to USB Stick or any other external device. In my view it is more secure, my Operating System does not get any virus from USB Stick for example.

A few days ago I received 2 USB Stick and both failed when I tried to copy a file with 1GB approximately and I received an error report from Ubuntu 9.10 CD (something related to the Operating System). Well I tried with other which had 500MB approximately and it worked well.

Then I was thinking about to download a Ubuntu new version and I got it: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (64 bits).

My surprise was when I read the system requirements (my new laptop pass the requirements):

  • - 2 GHz dual core processor or better
    - 2 GB RAM

I read my Ubuntu 9.10 system requirements:

  • - 256 MB RAM
    - Works with Intel and AMD processors

My questions: Why does Ubuntu 16.04 LTS system requirements grows a lot? What will be the system requeriments in Ubuntu 30: 16GB RAM, 4GHz processor,... ???


I will like to use it for my old laptop too (which has not well system requirements: 2GB RAM, 64MB Graphic Card, 1.75 processor -approximately-) then I will like to download Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (32 bits) too. If I download Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (32 bits): Will be Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (32 bits) system requirements the same than 64 bits or less?

NOTE: like I said it is only for LIVE MODE.

Regards.
 
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I tried Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (64 bits) in my new laptop and it works well, but in my old laptop it does not work (because it has 32 bits processor).

So download and try the 32bit LiveCD.
Ubuntu 14.04, here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/

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I see no reason why it wouldn't work on your laptop.
 

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Ubuntu system requirements vary depending on the Desktop environment you load. Xubuntu for example will run on 512mb of RAM and a Processor that supports PAE. Gnome supports a 1ghz CPU, 1.5 GB RAM. 2 GHz dual core CPU, 2 GB or RAM and 128 MB dedicated memory is the lowest for supporting Unity as it has many bells and giving you somewhat reasonable performance, you just wont be Multitasking all that well.

Mint, Mate, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, KDE Should all work on a Laptop with 2GB of Ram and a 1.75ghz CPU provided you have enough disk space.

For older systems Linux Mint 17.3 using Xfce is the way to go, it uses very little resources and comes with all the applications you need for daily use.
 
Hey,

1) Is that VRAM shared, and if so can you increase the amount allotted in your BIOS?

2) Can you add any more system memory? (i.e. 2x2GB)

My dad can actually run W10 fairly well with an 8-year-old dual-core Intel laptop and 2GB system memory though not sure how those CPU's compare.

3) Linux Mint->
I switched to it from Ubuntu. I'm not a professional user and can only say I liked it a bit better though not sure why.

**You can actually download distros and run them directly from a USB stick to easily test them out! You need to support bootable USB and may need to go into the BIOS manually to switch during bootup.

DVD too, though it's not writable and also it's sluggish.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgC67Z9IxLw

Ubuntu running on the Intel Compute Stick! The CPU isn't terribly powerful so it looks like your laptop may do okay, but it's really hard to say without trying (which is pretty easy anyway).

Anyway, I suggest trying a few different distros including Mint, newer Ubuntu etc.

(Even if you get 4GB RAM there's no need to go 64-bit OS since 32-bit can address 4GB of memory space (that includes VRAM but yours is either shared or a dedicated 64MB but either way it doesn't matter much. Probably both would work fine, though sometimes 64-bit on older hardware may be missing drivers)
 

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I see no reason why it wouldn't work on your laptop.

Yes, there is a reason.

My old laptop requirements are: 2GB RAM, 64MB Graphic Card, 1.75 processor, ... VS Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (64 bits): 2GHz dual core processor, 2GB RAM. But I do not know if the 32 bits version has the same requirements or less.

Ubuntu system requirements vary depending on the Desktop environment you load.

The purpose that I want to use Ubuntu is ONLY to copy files from my Operating System to any external device so I use LIVE MODE (only for copy files). Then I do not matter if the Desktop enviroment (visually) is not good, it is more important that works well internally.

1) Is that VRAM shared, and if so can you increase the amount allotted in your BIOS?

No, it is fixed. 2GB only for RAM and 64MB only for Graphic Card.

2) Can you add any more system memory? (i.e. 2x2GB)

No I can not. 2GB is the maximum (my laptop brand manual says: 2GB RAM -before I had only 1GB and I added other more- )
 

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The purpose that I want to use Ubuntu is ONLY to copy files from my Operating System to any external device so I use LIVE MODE (only for copy files). Then I do not matter if the Desktop enviroment (visually) is not good, it is more important that works well internally.

So just try it.
Burn to DVD or USB. See if it boots.
It probably will.

Copy your stuff as needed.
 

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So just try it.
Burn to DVD or USB. See if it boots.
It probably will.

Copy your stuff as needed.

I tried Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (64 bits) in my new laptop and it works well, but in my old laptop it does not work (because it has 32 bits processor).

Mint, Mate, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, KDE Should all work on a Laptop with 2GB of Ram and a 1.75ghz CPU provided you have enough disk space.

I do not understand well. I see: Mint, Lubuntu, Ubuntu GNOME, ... they are a Linux distribution based on Ubuntu and all of them have: 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus). Questions:


  • 1)What is the difference between them? The Desktop looks good in some of them and for that reason they have more system requirements, I do not know.

    2) They have the same version: 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus). Then: Have they the same kernel (like UBUNTU)?
 

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Thank you all for your answers :)

So download and try the 32bit LiveCD.
Ubuntu 14.04, here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/

I downloaded it and I created a bootable USB stick. In my Old Laptop works fast, here you have some information (from System Monitor):


  • System Monitor -> Resources:
    - CPU History: 20%
    - Memory History: 450 MiB