i7 4790k Getting Hot While Rendering?

Otis_1 · May 10, 2016

Hi, im currently rendering on CUDA with my i7 4790k and my gtx 970. Even though im running CUDA my CPU seems to still be taking a beating while rendering.... The average temperature while rendering is up at 75-88 Degrees Centigrade. My current editing software is Premier Pro and my cooler is stock. Should i be worried?

SinxarKnights · May 10, 2016

http://ppbm7.com/index.php/tweakers-page/88-exporting-style

Only a handful of effects use CUDA. The GTX 970 is also unsupported and there are reports of it not doing anything at all.

Meaning, the CPU is doing most of the work. You can get GPU-Z and look at the load % and temp of the 970 and see if it is doing anything.

logainofhades · May 10, 2016

That is way too hot, for that CPU. I would suggest getting an aftermarket cooler, like the Cryorig H7.

Gnuffi · May 10, 2016

you need an aftermarket cooler for that CPU,
Intel stopped shipping K chips with stock coolers for a reason

bambiboom · May 10, 2016

Otis_1 :

Otis_1,

I'm not a Premiere Pro user, but my understanding is that it has been going through some variation in configuration: in v 2014, Premiere could run simultaneous frame processing on each thread. This makes the CPU run hot. In v 2015, the simultaneous frame processing was deleted and it does not effectively utilize CUDA acceleration. The v 2016 is said to have a new and better multi-threaded configuration.

If you intend to continue with Premiere Pro, improve the cooler with a big double fan / heatsink, and if you're thinking of professional use, consider an LGA2011 and a 8 or 10-core Xeon. If Premiere is re-written in the way that's been suggested, more CPU cores will be more important than clock speed. Keep in mind too, that (as far as I know) Adobe CC will continue to recognize only one GPU- that is SLI is not utilized, plus the efficiency of Premiere actually goes negative above about 8-cores.

I use a 2X 6-core Xeon Dell Precision for rendering and I'm thinking of changing my 2013 E5-1620 4-core HP z420 to a Xeon E5-2680- 8-core @ 2.7 /3.5GHz (only $140 these days) and that will be the new rendering engine. You can buy a used z420 with a 4-core for under $600 and these are ultra-reliable and very quiet systems.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

1. Modeling:

HP z420 (2015) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) > 32GB DDR3 1866 ECC RAM > Quadro K4200 (4GB) > Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) > Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z2300 speakers > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)>
[ Passmark Rating = 5064 > CPU= 13989 / 2D= 819 / 3D= 4596 / Mem= 2772 / Disk= 4555] [Cinebench R15 > CPU = 1014 OpenGL= 126.59 FPS] 7.8.15

2. Rendering:

Dell Precision T5500 (2011) > 2X Xeon X5680 (6 -core @ 3.33 / 3.6GHz), 48GB DDR3 1333 ECC Reg. > Quadro K2200 (4GB ) > PERC H310 / Samsung 840 250GB / WD RE4 Enterprise 1TB > M-Audio 192 sound card > 875W PSU > Windows 7 Professional 64> HP 2711x (27", 1920 X 1080)
[ Passmark system rating = 3844 / CPU = 15047 / 2D= 662 / 3D= 3500 / Mem= 1785 / Disk= 2649] (12.30.15)

logainofhades · May 10, 2016

bambiboom :

Otis_1,

I'm not a Premiere Pro user, but my understanding is that it has been going through some variation in configuration: in v 2014, Premiere could run simultaneous frame processing on each thread. This makes the CPU run hot. In v 2015, the simultaneous frame processing was deleted and it does not effectively utilize CUDA acceleration. The v 2016 is said to have a new and better multi-threaded configuration.

If you intend to continue with Premiere Pro, improve the cooler with a big double fan / heatsink, and if you're thinking of professional use, consider an LGA2011 and a 8 or 10-core Xeon. If Premiere is re-written in the way that's been suggested, more CPU cores will be more important than clock speed. Keep in mind too, that (as far as I know) Adobe CC will continue to recognize only one GPU- that is SLI is not utilized, plus the efficiency of Premiere actually goes negative above about 8-cores.

I use a 2X 6-core Xeon Dell Precision for rendering and I'm thinking of changing my 2013 E5-1620 4-core HP z420 to a Xeon E5-2680- 8-core @ 2.7 /3.5GHz (only $140 these days) and that will be the new rendering engine. You can buy a used z420 with a 4-core for under $600 and these are ultra-reliable and very quiet systems.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

1. Modeling:

HP z420 (2015) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) > 32GB DDR3 1866 ECC RAM > Quadro K4200 (4GB) > Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) > Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z2300 speakers > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)>
[ Passmark Rating = 5064 > CPU= 13989 / 2D= 819 / 3D= 4596 / Mem= 2772 / Disk= 4555] [Cinebench R15 > CPU = 1014 OpenGL= 126.59 FPS] 7.8.15

2. Rendering:

Dell Precision T5500 (2011) > 2X Xeon X5680 (6 -core @ 3.33 / 3.6GHz), 48GB DDR3 1333 ECC Reg. > Quadro K2200 (4GB ) > PERC H310 / Samsung 840 250GB / WD RE4 Enterprise 1TB > M-Audio 192 sound card > 875W PSU > Windows 7 Professional 64> HP 2711x (27", 1920 X 1080)
[ Passmark system rating = 3844 / CPU = 15047 / 2D= 662 / 3D= 3500 / Mem= 1785 / Disk= 2649] (12.30.15)

That extra stuff has absolutely nothing to do with what the OP asked.

g-unit1111 · May 10, 2016

Gnuffi :

Yeah I agree with this, I'd definitely suggest getting an aftermarket cooler. A 4790K should not be run at stock cooling. Get something like a Cryorig H5 for $45 and it should drop those temperatures:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF30R0134&cm_re=cryorig_h5-_-9SIA4UF30R0134-_-Product

bambiboom · May 10, 2016

logainofhades :

bambiboom :

That extra stuff has absolutely nothing to do with what the OP asked.

logainofhades,

The OP asked "should I be worried" concerning high temperatures during Premiere Pro use. My reply was a possible explanation of the reason exactly to the application and two levels of response: improved cooler or in the case of professional use, a system with more CPU cores so as to improve speed.

How are these explanations and suggestions not to the point? Are additional information or suggestions prohibited?

BambiBoom

ex_bubblehead · May 10, 2016

In addition to the others there's also the Thermaltake Frio Silent 14:

http://www.thermaltake.com/Cooler/Air_Cooler_/Frio/C_00002337/Frio_Silent_14/design.htm
http://www.ocinside.de/review/thermaltake_frio_silent_14/

This is the one I run on my 4790k. It's dead silent & temps never go above 60c under load. At 14cm it's quite large and may not fit your setup. However, it does come in a 12cm that should fit anything.

logainofhades · May 11, 2016

I don't disagree with your comments regarding the nature of the software, and need for good cooling. I am talking about the same copy paste, that you seem to do at least once, in every thread you are in, of those systems below your name. Also the OP was not looking for a different, much less used system. They wanted to know whether their temps were safe. Just asking for you to stay on topic.

bambiboom · May 11, 2016

logainofhades :

logainofhades,

This site, which is owned for the purpose of market research and analysis consulting, relies on volunteered data and might remember that those who donate their time and efforts to their business free are correspondingly free to walk away.

As I had two posts from moderators on the same topic in one day, I am to understand from that recommending a used system and mentioning my own systems for the purpose of connecting hardware choices to quantified performance does not coincide with the fundamental market research /advertising purpose here. This is completely understandable as the cost / performance ratio of new components can never equal that of used.

I'll try to reduce and abbreviate posting in future so as not to upset the brand mention density/ distribution rates which can interfere with segmentation and clear product differentiation.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

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