PC slower after windows reinstall.

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I was recently told to try re-installing windows to fix a lag issue that began after installing a new motherboard and CPU. Now it lags waaaaaaaaaaaaay more than it did before. Hard drive was even formatted for the re-installation. Motherboard disk was used to re-install drivers after windows. But now it basically freezes for long periods of time at what seems like random times. What could be causing it to be slower after a re-install?

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CPU - AMD FX 4300 Quad Core 3.8 Ghz
Motherboard - ASRock 980DE3/U3S3
OS - Windows 7 Ultimate
 
Solution
Installed new hard drive and haven't had a single issue yet. Also, it is faster than it ever was before. Getting an SSD was definitely a good choice.

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Temps are right around 50c. Replacing the HDD with an SSD was the second option given to me to fix the first lag issue if re-installing windows didn't help, but it has become worst just from re-installing windows. Now the lag has increased to about 10x what it was just before re-installing windows. I want to at least get it back to the speed it was before the install so I can search for a new SSD. Right now it would take days due to constant lag spikes that last anywhere from 20 seconds to 2 minutes.
 
Sounds like a hardware issue, possibly bad memory or incorrect memory setup.

1. run Memtest86 www.memtest86.com (full pass or until errors)

2. update BIOS if newer exists (use Memtest first though, because if the error exists then goes away after BIOS update that's useful info)

3. verify memory sticks in the correct slots (may be #2 and #4 slots for two sticks but motherboard manual will tell you)

Other:
If you have a USB stick try burning a Linux distro such as Linux Mint, then boot to it and run from it (do not install it to your hard drive). In fact, unhook all DVD and HDD/SSD cables while testing Linux from the USB stick to remove potential issues.

Other:
HDD or Sata data cable can sometimes be an issue as well.
 

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It don't think it's updating. I don't see the icon in the system tray like I normally would.
Ran check disk and it didn't find anything wrong. Though now it has started crashing.
 

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Problem only barely started after installing new CPU and motherboard, but problem only got beyond tolerable by freezing constantly after re-installing windows.

1. Done. Found no errors.

2. Already done.

3. Only one 4GB RAM stick and is in correct slot.

Don't have a USB stick.

Cables switched out for the new ones that came with the motherboard, issue still there.
 

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when you first turn on the system look at how much CPU usage your using at idle or if any very high memory processes are listed.

My computer idles 1% but I've heard of similar issues before.

This info may be relevant i'll try to do some research while u post the %'s and or processes.
 

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It's lagging and freezing even after it's been on a while. The highest memory using process is my browser which it says is 95,712k. At the time I checked the CPU usage it wasn't lagging and said 25%, but the graphs that show each core show them all spiking to max a lot, even while not lagging. Also keep in mind I'm using windows' built in resource monitor to check that of which I don't know it can be trusted to be accurate due to the PC currently having issues in that area. Should I still check it's usage right after a restart? And should I install MSI Afterburner to check it with?
 

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After restart it fluctuated around between 1% and 7%. Upon opening my browser to come here it jumped to 20% for a moment and is now averaging at about 4% with browser still open. Nvm, it just jumped up to 25% as I was typing that and holding around there. It says the process using that much is svchost.exe. Core 1 and 4 are spiking to max a lot, but core 2 and 3 are staying low. Not sure if any of the extra info I added helps figure it out, but just in case.
 

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It does help a ton, i just posted about a similar problem myself, and worked out the solution found here.
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3055786/svchost-cpu-idle-starting-windows-loads.html

Here is the skinny version of what i said at the end when i fixed my problem.
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So I found out the solution. Once i Cleared system logs through Event viewer, and disabled windows update service the problem was solved. But through further inspection 8% was logs and the rest was windows update. After choosing to never update, and disabling the service at startup. My idle is at 0% CPU.

To enter the event viewer type "eventvwr" in run no quotes. Click windows logs > right click on application click properties > click clear log > dialog prompts u to save and clear or just clear, if u analyze logs feel free to click save if not click clear > Click apply > Click Ok.

Repeat steps above starting from Right click on application, and just right click and follow steps for security, setup, and system.

Close event viewer.


To disable windows update type "services.msc" into run no quotes
Make sure your on "Extended" tab (located bottom left)
Find Windows Update Right click >properties >startup type dropdown > select disable >apply > okay

Open control panel > Upper right hand corner search type "Windows Update"
Select windows update in Green (may vary if themed)
Left hand side select "Change Settings"
Find "Important Updates" dropdown menu
Select Never check for updates.

******FOREWARNING////NOTE*******
All commands done through run are on Win 7 Pro.
Doing this will disable automatic updating. Which can stop your system from receiving Crucial Security updates. To update, you must manually search for updates preferably once a week (set a reminder!) through the windows update section within control panel. I highly recommend keeping your system up to date but I'll control when my computer dedicates resources for this updates. ]


Hope this helps
 

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Was yours crashing during high CPU usage too?
 

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Not every time, but yes it did happen before I got the issue fixed.
 

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Did the steps you gave. Still lagging and even crashed again when I tried to install the driver for my GPU. Almost everything I try to install causes it to crash with a screen I could only best describe as a pixelated bowl of fruity pebbles.
 

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Decided to try again from scratch. Formatted hard drive and re-installed windows. Finally got through installing all drivers without crashing this time, but still started crashing again shortly after. In case it makes a difference, I noticed that the small 100mb partition on the hard drive no longer says "system reserved" like it always had before when I have ever installed windows. Now it says "unallocated space" or something like that. Also, the driver and utilities disk that came with the motherboard has started doing something new. After it installs and restarts the PC, it boots to a screen that just loops back to the same screen no matter which of the 3 options I choose and won't let the PC finish booting til I remove the driver disk and restart. Other than that, the lagging, freezing, and crashing is still the same. Is getting a new hard the only option left or is there anything else I can try?
 

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Took care of the two that were there. Now there are no yellow triangles, but it's still crashing. Especially when I let windows check for updates(without installing them).
 


Click Start, Click Control Panel,
Look at the top of the window, in the path bar you see “control panel >”
Click on “>” (in the path bar) now click on “all control panel options.”
(This will open up all the hidden controls available)
Click Power Options
click on the arrow to “show other plans”
Check the Box that says "high performance"
Click (in high performance) "change plan settings"
Turn off display: set to NEVER
Put the computer to sleep: set to NEVER
Click: Change advanced plan settings
Scroll down the list: Click on the + signs to expand the choices for each item on the list.
Require a password on wake up: set to NO
Hard disk: turn off the hard disk: set to NEVER
Wireless adapter settings:
Sleep: set to NEVER
Allow Hybrid sleep: set to NEVER
Hibernate after: set to NEVER
Allow wake timers: set to disable
USB settings:
USB selective suspend setting: set to NEVER
Power Buttons and lid:
Power button action: Setting: set to shut down
Sleep Button Action: set to: do nothing
PCI Express:
Link State Power Management, Setting: OFF
Processor Power Management: Minimum state (set to) 7%

System Cooling Policy: setting: Active
Maximum State (set to) 100%
Display
Turn off display after: setting: NEVER (turning off display automatically can cause freezing also)
Turn off the monitor power manually, when you want it off. Don’t use the auto monitor turn off.
Multimedia Settings:
When Sharing Media: Setting: Prevent idling to sleep
When Playing Video: Setting: Optimize Video
Click APPLY
Click OK

Open the bios set up and make sure "cool and quiet" is OFF. (AMD)
If there is a power saver or a "quiet mode" in the bios, shut it off...
There may be a performance setting in the bios setup you have...make sure it's cranked up to max.
in the bios, see that the allocation for video, if available, is maxed.

Now open the hardware manager profiles...
click start
click computer
click system properties
click device manager
double click on mice and other pointing devices
right click on HID compliant mouse
left click on properties
click on the power management tab
UN-check the box that says: "allow the computer to turn off this device to save power." (there is now NO check mark in this box)
click OK

Now repeat this procedure for all mice, monitors, keyboards, and ALL USB ports on the device manager list.

You must open ALL the devices one at a time, as above, and turn off the power saver, for each device.

NOW turn all the security back ON. NOW open your security antivirus. Make sure the antivirus is set to "gaming mode." Or "multimedia mode."
This prevents the security updating from interrupting your game / multimedia priority.
IF the security does not have "gaming mode" or "multimedia mode" get different security.
IF you are using "free" security downloaded from the internet, get rid of it NOW.
Use ONLY professional all in one security. DO NOT load multiple mismatched security programs, which conflict with each other.
DO NOT load free tools into your system such as: "driver sweeper" or any of that "free" goofy stuff.

 

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Thank you, everyone, for trying to help. I wish we could have solved the issue, but it seems we have ran out of free options. I have ordered a new SSD(since it's the only option I haven't tried yet and was planning on getting one anyway) and will have it Sunday. I will report back to let everyone know if it solves the issue.