980ti vs 1080

adambean · May 12, 2016

So, like everyone else right now ... trying to figure out what to do.

I think I can sell my 980ti at a ~$200 loss (paid $700, should sell for at least $500 post fee's).

Is it worth it to do this and pick up the 1080, or wait till 980ti's drop in price and SLI those?

I already shipped off my evga 980ti hybrid to Amazon to do an FBA and I'm debating if I should cancel and ask for them to send back or not.

Thanks

DSzymborski · May 12, 2016

Is there something you cannot currently do on a 980ti that you wish to do and that you believe you can do on a 1080?

Hlsgsz · May 12, 2016

adambean :

Not worth the upgrade. It will copst you alot of money for marginal gains(~10%)
Wait for the 1080ti, as that will be aworthy upgrade. in teh mean time, you can run everything at max, so why bother.
Better sink your money in a better monitor, worthy of the 980ti(1440p, 21:9 maybe), if you haven't already.

Dulith1118 · May 12, 2016

the 1080 will beat the 980ti sli without any issues..
but when compared to ur loss of the 200 dollars its not worth it..
if money isnt a problem and if ur using a 4k display then go for the 1080 if ur using 2k or 1080p then stick with the 980ti

Math Geek · May 12, 2016

like everyone else who has asked this exact question in the last couple days. i will point you to the thread created for just this discussion http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3047729/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1000-series-megathread-faq-resources.html

all known info, rumors, speculation and discussion should be limited to that thread to help keep the forum nice and clean

as soon as benchmarks show up (some already are posted there that have leaked) they will be linked to and talked about. will also be making suggestions and such based on the new benchmarks when they come out. until then, we have no true real world idea how each card will perform, nor what will be a good buy and when to go about doing it.

microcenter does have a hell of a deal on the evga 980 ti FTW edition. check it out for $500 plus $25 rebate http://www.microcenter.com/product/458159/GeForce_GTX_980_Ti_FTW_6GB_Video_Card_w-_ACX_20_Cooling

gonna be hard to beat that price any time soon

burdenbound · May 12, 2016

If you are sure you could get $500 for your 980ti then I would. Supposedly the 1080 is around 30% faster than titan X which is pretty much 980ti. Also if you haven't done SLI in the past I would advice you to steer clear. The number of games that actually use multiple GPUs and do it correctly is slim, you normally run into all sorts of issues.

Math Geek · May 12, 2016

Dulith1118 :

you have absolutely nothing to go on to make such a bold claim.

JackNaylorPE · May 12, 2016

adambean :

Do you know something we don't ? The 980 was 7 % faster than the 780 Ti. Is it worth it ? On the other hand, the hybrid cools the GPU better but does not offer any increased performance as, if anything, the performance of the Ti is limited by VRM temps and / or voltage limits which the hybrid has no effect on. Even swapping for a full water block doesn't offer any advantage as, again, the air cooled cards are not getting anywhere near throttling teams when OCd to the max,

With the 1xxx series even more efficient, your cost to upgrade should be smaller opting for an air cooled card over the hybrid. Still.... is it worth all the effort and cost for an improvement that we can not as yet quantify ? Will it be the same 7% we say with last generation ... will you be asking the same question in 6 months when the Ti comes out ... likely w/ HBM2 ?

I wouldn't open my case for the 7% performance improvement we saw from the 780 Ti to the 980. THG lists a 1 tier performance increase from the 780 Ti to the 980 .... and writes:

I don’t recommend upgrading your graphics card unless the replacement card is at least three tiers higher. Otherwise, the upgrade is somewhat parallel, and you may not even notice a worthwhile difference.

While I don't necessarily agree with the 3 tiers,a single tier will be hardly noticeable... the kind of difference only a utility to measure. Best to see what the Ti does rather than chage now and have buyers remorse later .... but again, until we have actual performance data, might as well ask here:

http://www.ask8ball.net/

Dulith1118 :

Twin 780 Tis were 60% faster than the 980 ... so how did you come about drawing that conclusion ?

Guest · May 12, 2016

I just bought a 980ti a month, I'm also curious about this. Is it worth getting rid of it to get a 1080, or just SLI'ing another one. I don't need another 980ti that badly at the moment as I'm playing at 1080p(don't give me that 980ti is overkill for 1080p bullshit because it isn't) and Skyrim with ENB and such tanks my FPS, but games such as Tomb Raider I can run maxed at pretty much constant 60fps

adambean · May 12, 2016

I have the PG348Q coming within the next month and I'm a bit nervous how well it will truly perform on a single 980ti. A few have said it's fine, but ... how long will that last?

$200 loss now vs. probably a ~$500 loss later when the 1080ti comes out, seems like a better now vs. later right?

Hlsgsz · May 12, 2016

adambean :

No, it's the other way around. Forget SLI, always get the best single card you can. But the 1080 will not be a worthy upgrade for the 980ti. The 1080ti will be, as it will probably handle 21:9 1440p 100hz withou a sweat.
And, btw, the 980ti will handle that monitor just fine, especialy since it sports g-sync.
Btw, awesome choice of a monitor, You're gonna have the time of your life.

adambean · May 12, 2016

Ugh, so am I wrong in thinking that taking the loss now vs. 1080ti release is wrong? I'd lose ~$200 now, but 1080ti release/upgrade = probably a loss of double yeah?

Hlsgsz · May 12, 2016

adambean :

No. Every upgrade you do from generation close to eachother costs disproportionately compared to the benefit, so, one should upgrade if the upgrade is really worthy.
Basically, while the 980ti will go down in value now because it's not the latest and greatest anymore, it will continue to keep that value after that and the release of the 1080ti will not affect it as, by then, they will be priced according to their power not the psihological fact that they are not the latest(psichology that seems to be affecting you quite a bit here

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Hlsgsz · May 12, 2016

Regardless, wait and see with the monitor. I bet you won't feel the need to upgrade. The 980ti is a very capable card at 1440p. And g-sync will smooth things out.

dangus · May 12, 2016

Dulith1118 :

no it wont this is wrong. you don't know that so why would you tell him that?

adambean · May 12, 2016

GAAHHHH, you're killing me Hlsgsz. I wish I would have come here before I shipped off to Amazon ... what to do, what to do ...

Hlsgsz · May 12, 2016

adambean :

Sorry to burst your bubble, man. Just keepin' it real

adambean · May 12, 2016

So I see a few options:
1) Keep the 980ti, address performance issues when/if they happen
2) Sell the 980ti, take a ~$200 loss, buy a 1080 founders
3) Go with #2, then sell the 1080/buy a 1080ti on release, probably an additional ~$100-$200 loss
4) Sell the 980ti when the 1080ti comes out, take a ~$300-$500 loss
5) Buy a second 980ti and SLI when they are cheap (probably sometime after 2 or 3)

DSzymborski · May 12, 2016

adambean :

Number 1 is the best option unless you've given any indication that you have a situation in which you'd receive a benefit from a 1080 that you're not getting now. You haven't given us all the information (what resolutions you're playing at, what refresh rate, what games) for us to give you the absolute best advice. So we can only give you advice on generic terms.

But in the generic, taking big losses to get the next incremental gain GPU is generally a Very Bad Idea. I can't imagine many scenarios in which selling a 980ti, buying a 1080, then selling a 1080 to buy a 1080ti is actually a good idea.

Hlsgsz · May 12, 2016

1- the sensible path
2- even you if you were to go from the ti to the 1080, you would be paying a $100 premium just for the founders crap, nevermind another ~70 early adopter premium(there is no competition. I'm willing to bet that in october when amd gets its stuff out, the landscape will change)
3- thats teh worst option
4- it will be a 300 difference max. but no loss. you'll get extra performance for the money(granted, expensive extra perf, but still)
5- look, except when getting two of the latest and greatest cuz nothing else will do, SLI is a compromise solution for peaople who just cant afford the single card equivalent. it has and always will have it's issues. look at the fixes that come with new driver versions: most are sli related, ESPECIALLY when SLI is combined with G-SYnc

adambean · May 12, 2016

Thanks DSZ, well said ...

Truth be told, I'm doing very little gaming on my PC these days, as time simply hasn't been on my side. I've been more so gaming on console/handheld these days, but was planning on investing heavily into Doom 4 when I got that new monitor.

Sounds like I should just stick with my card for now and deal with whatever comes later. Reality is, I've barely even needed that much card to date. I, like everyone else, just got excited that new tech was coming out and it's supposedly so much better/faster.

My biggest fear is just that, If I don't sell now ... its value will continually go down and I'll lose more later, than now, ya know? I have to assume when the 1080ti comes out, the market will be flooded with 980ti's going at 20% value and 1080's too.

adambean · May 12, 2016

HLS - yeah, I've never done SLI and I wasn't a fan of having/need to do so, outside of simply getting high scores on a benchmark. I can play all of todays games (minus Doom 4 - haven't tried yet) with max settings. The only reason I was thinking this as an option would be that the current 980ti's will plummet in price.

So all things considered ... best option sounds like, hang onto the 980ti for now, more than likely revisit later when 1080ti comes out - IF current isn't keeping up (which I'm sure it will). Again, as I just said above, just don't want to take an even bigger loss later.

adambean · May 12, 2016

One other note, along with the asus pg348q, I'll also have a second 27' 1080p monitor ... should still be fine with the 980ti yeah?

Hlsgsz · May 12, 2016

adambean :

Bro, prices will not plummet that much. 20%? Maybe in 5 years.
And they won;t preacisely because SH buyers are value oriented and don't care about hype.
That being said, teh main damage is already done since NV announced teh new gen. Do you really think any conscious SH buyer is not waiting for the prices to go down and jumping on 980ti's these days?

Hlsgsz · May 12, 2016

adambean :

Yeah yeah. you can get another and it'll still be fine

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