Busted motherboard. Replacing!

baterax · May 14, 2016

Ok so I built a PC back in 2013.

It has a Crosshair V Formula-Z motherboard.
And an AMD FX8350 CPU.

They've served me well up to this point, as it's a gaming machine.
For all other purposes I have a Mac Pro.

But, recent power surges have ruined my motherboard, the USB 3.0 ports no longer work.

So I'm taking this opportunity to not just replace it, but move up to an Intel kit.

I'm almost set on what CPU and mobo I'm getting, but I want to get more opinions to make sure I'm going the best route.

Looking at how much better they are, and the prices, the kit I'm looking at now is:

ASUS ROG RAMPAGE V EXTREME

Core i7 5930K

Now, this kit is a 2011-v3 socket kit.

Should I go 1151 instead?
Any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

terroralpha · May 14, 2016

5930K is pricey and if all you are doing is gaming, it will be an overkill. all haswell-e CPUs (5820k, 5930k, 5960x) have to be watercooled if you are planning to OC them with at least one 240mm or larger radiator. so something like a corsair H10 will do.

also, haswell e CPUs will soon be replaced by broadwell e CPUs. not sure when exactly. maybe a month. maybe slightly longer. they will perform slightly better but will use less power and produce less heat. the price of the 5930k will plummet as it will be phased out.

having said that, any haswell e CPU will be WAY faster than any skylake CPU. haswell e CPU generally OC to somewhere between 4.4-4.8GHz. my 5930k does 4.7GHz without any problems.

if i was you, i'd probably wait a month for the broadwell e CPUs to roll out. even if you wont want to get a broadwell e, you'll at least get the 5930k cheaper

if you must upgrade right now, get a 5820k. you won't notice the difference from a 5930k unless you do triple SLI with GTX 1080x

baterax · May 14, 2016

I'm actually going to buy them in about a month, lol!

I'm going to the US on the 27th and staying there until June 11th.
So it might work out just perfect, you're saying the stuff I wanna buy will drop in price, right?
But, do I get my intended CPU for cheaper, or jump to a Broadwell?

terroralpha · May 14, 2016

baterax :

yes, all this stuff will be cheaper once broadwell e hits the market.

the only major difference between the two will be power draw (performance per watt). but what we know for a fact is that haswell e is a monster overclocker. 30% overclocks are common place. however, we don't know how well broadwell e will OC. if you don't care about power draw, go for the tried and true haswell e at the lower price.

if you don't mind me asking, where in the US will you be? which city? i can maybe suggest a way to save even more money.

baterax · May 14, 2016

I'll be in Orlando!

terroralpha · May 14, 2016

baterax :

damn

bad news. there are zero worthwhile computer hardware stores in the entire state of Florida. you'll have to order online from a place like newegg and have them ship this stuff to your hotel or wherever you'll be staying.

if you were in NYC, for example, you would have had the option of buying at microcenter where they have insane discounts on CPUs and motherboards. in california they have a chain called FRYs who also have good deals on this stuff

Hlsgsz · May 14, 2016

+1 on getting the 5820k instead of the 5930K if you decide to get teh current gen in the end. Mind you, waiting is a good idea because the E landscape is supposed to change: this time there'll be a ten core, an eight core and two six cores. So it's possible we'll be getting an 8 core at the 5930k pricepoint and a cheaper 6 core(fingers crossed!)

Hlsgsz · May 14, 2016

terroralpha :

Compared to everywhere else in the world, i think newegg prices are good enough

baterax · May 14, 2016

Yeah, newegg was the plan.

I loved going to Microcenter when I lived in Boston... I miss that.
I guess I'll keep this going until I take the trip then! Sounds like a lot of changes are incoming and soon.
This is great guys!

How about the motherboard? Everyone likes the one I picked?

Hlsgsz · May 14, 2016

baterax :

obviously it's an awesome board, but also a waste of money. Persoanlly i wouldn't go above this http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-x99ausb31
or maybe this, if i wanted something premium http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-sabertoothx99

baterax · May 14, 2016

Please elaborate on WHY it's a waste?

I mean you have to keep in mind, that I'm in Brazil.
I don't have access to stuff here for US prices. Everything here will cost me 4x more, and I won't be coming back to the US so soon (probably not until at least 2017).
So I need stuff to last me a little longer, I'd say.

Hlsgsz · May 14, 2016

That boar has alot of features that a normal user wouln't use. For example, do you really need 12 sata ports? Also, do you care how teh board looks and want leds and stuff on it?
Teh cheaper asus boards are not lower quality. They cater to more sensible buyers, that's all.

baterax · May 14, 2016

I mean, right now I already have 6 storage drives in here... If I got another one, with my current board I wouldn't be able to put it in :-(

And yes, I do care about how it looks.

Hlsgsz · May 14, 2016

Then, by all means, gor for it. It's an excellent board, no doubt about that.
Although, I think the sabertooth looks better: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-sabertoothx99
Obviously, this is just personal taste

baterax · May 14, 2016

Hmmm.

I just checked something too.
I have a Cooler Master Hyper 212.
It won't fit a 2011-v3 socket, will it. Hmmm

Hlsgsz · May 15, 2016

baterax :

It will work. It's compatible with 2011, so it's also compatible with 2011v3.
But, for performace(it would be a shame not to overclock a 5820k for example and the evo will not push it to the max) as well as looks, i would go with something else:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/be-quiet-cpu-cooler-bk019
or, even better:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h100i

baterax · May 15, 2016

How about the MasterAir or the V8 one?

I've been told the liquid stuff won't last me as long and require more maintenance...
I really don't want to maintain shit, I wanna build it, set it up and never open it again unless something is broken or I'm adding stuff...
Unless it's so dirty you can't see the parts (exaggeration, I do clean it lol)

I do like that the liquid ones don't occupy so much space though... Lots of free space around the RAM modules... hmm

Hlsgsz · May 15, 2016

As far as i know, the dark rock or http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd14se2011 will performa better.
But if you are willing to spen that kind of money, go for the h100i without a doubt.

EDIT:
The h100i is very reliable. You will have to clean it, though

But if you must go old scholl reliable air, the dark rock is my recommendation.

Hlsgsz · May 15, 2016

baterax :

lots of space and you can set it so all the heat goes directly out. That means that your case fans will not have to spin up and make noise

baterax · May 15, 2016

Hlsgsz :

baterax :

lots of space and you can set it so all the heat goes directly out. That means that your case fans will not have to spin up and make noise

Yeah I like silence. Hmmm

Hlsgsz · May 15, 2016

Yeah, well, when you do get this stuff, ask us and we'll make a silent build for you with everything. Just state a budget

baterax · May 15, 2016

Yeah let's see. Today is the 15th. I'm going to Orlando on the 27th.

I'll be there until the 11th...
Are we sure this is enough time for a new generation of CPUs to come out AND for the price on the one I want, to go down? If so, that might enable a kickass cooler purchase.
Like, at first, I didn't wanna replace mine, first because mine works and as you guys said, it'll work with the new stuff so, why buy another?
Secondly, the less stuff I bring back from the US, the better, because there's the risk of the border custom guys stopping me at the airport here, and if they find computer parts... the taxes I will pay will be substantial.

I will be traveling with 7 other people though, so I might spread the parts out amongst the different suitcases, so if they stop one person there's only one part. That makes it plausible that I'm just replacing a broken part in my machine here (this is actually true though, but you know, border custom agents can be difficult).

The odds of them stopping every single person that's carrying a part for me, are very slim.

But also, I've been running some benchmarks using a couple sites like userbenchmark.com and I'm not happy with a lot of the results... I keep seeing "worse than expected" and I suspect maybe it has to do with cooling...

Hlsgsz · May 16, 2016

baterax :

Well, thats probably not in time for either broadwell e(it should be announced at computex, but who knows about availability) or nevidia's 1000 series(probably only the founders edition will be available and i don't think it's worth the 100 extra).
The thing with th cooling is that, while the evo will probably allow for a mild overclock, it would be a shame not to push a 5820 or equivalent as far as it can go, adn teh evo just doesn't have teh capacity(these are 140W TDP cpus to begin with). So that's why an h100i woyld be worth it.

baterax · May 16, 2016

Hmmm then I might just do it.

Hlsgsz · May 16, 2016

This is how i would do it:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($369.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110i 113.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus RAMPAGE V EXTREME/U3 EATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($433.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($180.78 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Red 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive ($149.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($119.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Other: GTX 1080 ($599.00)
Total: $2183.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-16 19:09 EDT-0400

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