Increasing dedicated VRAM for EVGA 960 GTX 2GB SSC on MSI gaming 970?

maxjet2012 · May 18, 2016

Hey guys! So I've been doing some research into some computer stuff and found out about increasing the dedicated VRAM for the graphics card using main RAM. I wanted to do this since 2GB didn't seem like enough for my wanting needs of high graphic gaming. These are my specs:
AMD-FX6300 CPU 6 core
EVGA 960 GTX 2GB DDR5 SSC
HyperX Fury 16GB DDR3
1TB storage WD Blue Caviar
MSI 970 gaming motherboard
700W PSU cooler master Builer V2
And some other stuff I'm sure doesn't matter.
I was wondering how I could increase dedicated memory for my VRAM. Am I able to do it? If so then how? I already tried doing this in my MSI BIOS but the graphics options and all don't even seem to exist and I can't find anything on the VRAM! Am I missing something? Thanks!

clutchc · May 18, 2016

The card will only use system memory when the card runs out of its dedicated VRAM. But that will be MUCH slower memory than the card's VRAM. Have you noticed the gfx card using more than 2GB? What screen rez do you play at?

Dunlop0078 · May 18, 2016

I have never heard of that. You computer will already do that, when you run out of VRAM the excess will be dumped into system ram this can cause frame drops, stuttering and micro stuttering I think mostly because your DDR3 system ram is not as fast as the as the GDDR5 in your gpu and it adds latency. So i dont see how that makes sense, you cant make your system ram as fast as VRAM.

Rogue Leader · May 18, 2016

There is no way to do manually this, its an automatic process that if your card runs out of VRAM it dumps to system ram. System RAM is significantly slower than the GDDR5 in your GPU. It does affect frame rate when this happens.

Gnuffi · May 18, 2016

depending on what resolution you play at it will not benefit you at all even if it was possible, and as already mentioned when "running out" of Vram and using system memory you decrease performance, not increase,
think you might be confusing Integrated GPU dedicated ram with dedicated GPU and ram.

since the gtx 960 is only meant for 1080p gaming (yes it can do 1440p ofc but wont do so well), and currently there is only a handful of games even capable of using more than 2gb of Vram on 1080p there is no point in more Vram, and much less trying to make use of system memory to "make up for it"
most games will only use about 1.5gb vram at 1080p, some will use teh full 2gb, and only very very few games even benefit from more Vram
such games include, Rise of teh Tomb Raider, , Shadows of Mordor, the Witcher 3, but only on Ultra settings, where again the 960 simply isnt meant to be used and you will play with less than 60fps, even on 1080p

2gb of Vram is plenty, if you use the gtx960 as intended, 1080p high settings, not Ultra, (in newer games, you can easily max out older games)
and if games have high texture packs, that thus allow for 6gb of Vram usage, dont enable that option. wouldnt even help if you had teh 4gb version you would still suffer performance loss on that GPU in that situation

maxjet2012 · May 18, 2016

I have a 1080p 60hz BENQ monitor with HDMI connection.

maxjet2012 · May 18, 2016

Thanks for the quick replies guys. It makes sense about what you've just said Gbuffi. When I looked it up many people had intergrated laptop graphics and all etc etc! Thanks guys so much! The reason why I say this is because I play rainbow six siege and the graphics settings are set to meet my graphics card and it has this little bar saying how much VRAM I'm using and how the game partnered with Nvidia so it's all automatically set but I wanted to increase the graphics but the VRAM bar was like RED NOPE!!

Gnuffi · May 18, 2016

maxjet2012 :

no need to worry about Vram size, let alone artificially increasing it by some means (which again wouldnt help)
the gtx960 2gb will handle 1080p 60hz perfect, all you need is to consider the game and quality settings
new AAA games are more demanding than older AAA games, and thus you simply cannot expect to run at 60fps on Ultra settings with a low end GPU, and you need to accept such

at high preset settings (usually 1 notch below max, sometimes 2) the 960 will perform great, and run teh game smooth, you can always tweak graphic settings to your liking
do you want more quality? then you sacrifice FPS, do you want more/higher/steadier FPS? then you need to sacrifice some quality settings

you GPU is capable enough for 1080p, older games you can even run at Ultra, but you cant expect to run newer games that high, and if you have such desires you need to start consider GPU upgrade, not in terms of Vram size, but in performance/"strength"
(a 970 would blast past past 960, even if it had same 2gb Vram size)

Vram size is mainly only important when going to higher resolutions i.e. 2k or 4k, or using certain features like high res texture packs in graphics, otherwise its the architecture, speed and such that mainly increase performance, not Vram size/amount,
since like a system or regular program, it often wont use more than a certain amount, just like there is no point in using 32gb memory for gaming because game apps never use that much system memory, even if its available

clutchc · May 18, 2016

+1^
I can vouch for that being the owner of a 2GB Evga GTX 960 FTW+
At 1080p, I can play any game (of mine) at max/near max settings when it is combined with a suitable CPU.
I was in too big of a hurry and bought my 960 before the 4GB models were released. But from what I've been able to tell, I never use quite all of my card's 2GB of VRAM anyway.

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