What's the best grahpics card I can power off 235 watts PSU?

DavidVioMC · May 18, 2016

I want to upgrade my GPU but I don't want to upgrade my PSU for a while. My PC only supports up to GTX 750 and I was thinking about GTX 650 ti. I'm looking for the best GPU I can run off 235 watts without effecting anything else and is better than GeForce 710 (my current GPU)

Wolfshadw · May 18, 2016

Wait until you can upgrade both. No point in buying a graphics card now only to replace it after you get a new power supply.

-Wolf sends

Xtergo · May 18, 2016

How much is ur budget and what casing are you using

Dunlop0078 · May 18, 2016

Well I would highly recommend you upgrade that psu before upgrading the gpu. Nvidia recommends 400watts for the 650 ti and I believe a lot of them require a 6pin pcie connector. You would be better off with a gtx 750 ti most dont require a 6pin pcie connector but nvidia still recommends 300watts minimum for the 750 ti. And im sure that X58 platform and i7 suck a bit of power as well.

Hlsgsz · May 18, 2016

This would be it: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx9502g (GTX 950)
But i strongly recommend that you don't and update when you can update both, like the previous posters said.

DavidVioMC · May 18, 2016

Xtergo :

I have unlimate budget and I'm using Dell Optiplex 960 Small Form Factor case, I only care for the GPU the clear the hardrive bay and heatsink, it can stick out because I always have the side panel open anyway.

DavidVioMC · May 18, 2016

Dunlop0078 :

My motherboard is Dell 0K075K and the main connector is mini ATX which are pain in the back side and I have no idea why Dell decided to put that in except saving space. I could get a adapter but I heard bad things about those and some motherboards don't work with adapters, thats why I'm trying to stay off upgrading my PSU until I can get a better motherboard that I can transfer everything to.

DavidVioMC · May 18, 2016

Hlsgsz :

I have mentioned in my main post, my PC only supports up to GTX 750, not sure about GTX 750 ti.

Hlsgsz · May 18, 2016

DavidVioMC :

Your PC itself has no support limits regarding GPUs. Your question has been answered amply.

DavidVioMC · May 18, 2016

Wolfshadw :

I have upgraded and changed multiple GPU's and my latest upgrade was from GT 610 1GB to GT 710 2GB which unlocked next games for since I wasn't able to play anything like GTA V or Black Ops 2 until I upgraded to GT 710, I'm trying to squeeze everything I can out of this PC until I can build a new i7 next year unless something better comes out.

Hlsgsz · May 18, 2016

DavidVioMC :

Wolfshadw :

I have upgraded and changed multiple GPU's and my latest upgrade was from GT 610 1GB to GT 710 2GB which unlocked next games for since I wasn't able to play anything like GTA V or Black Ops 2 until I upgraded to GT 710, I'm trying to squeeze everything I can out of this PC until I can build a new i7 next year unless something better comes out.

Then get the 950 i linked and pray that your PSU can handle it

JackNaylorPE · May 18, 2016

9xx series requires a minimum 350 watter (GTX 950)
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-950/specifications

750 wants a 300 watter
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-750/specifications

Thermal and Power Specs:
95 C = Maximum GPU Temperature (in C)
55 W = Graphics Card Power (W)
300 W = Minimum System Power Requirement (W)

The 730...same thing

The 650 Ti Boost ants 450 watts

In short, you might use a smaller wattage PSU for thois ecards, but it will not be "supported" or warranteed by nVidia

DavidVioMC · May 18, 2016

Hlsgsz :

As in technical, yes it has no limits but in practical, no, it has limits. Dell OptiPlex 960's, espically SFF which I got, are made for server-use only and not made to be 8GB DDR3 with 1TB SSD and a huge GTX 1080 with a 850 watt PSU. I have already upgraded evrything I can except PSU and GPU for a clear reason, SFF are pain in the back side, I have tried to move everything to a gaming case but the thing is, it will not power on unless heatsink is screwed on and its impossible to screw it on, another case because on SFF the screws go thru motherboard into the another side, and its impossible on another case unless I drill holes and I would also need a mini ATX extension cable for PSU since it's 10cm long and the PSU would need to float and every IT guy knows that mini ATX extensions cables are like unicorns and only 2 websites in the world sell them and they don't come cheap, and those are 2 that actually work and not those fake ones.

Hlsgsz · May 18, 2016

DavidVioMC :

Hlsgsz :

As in technical, yes it has no limits but in practical, no, it has limits. Dell OptiPlex 960's, espically SFF which I got, are made for server-use only and not made to be 8GB DDR3 with 1TB SSD and a huge GTX 1080 with a 850 watt PSU. I have already upgraded evrything I can except PSU and GPU for a clear reason, SFF are pain in the back side, I have tried to move everything to a gaming case but the thing is, it will not power on unless heatsink is screwed on and its impossible to screw it on, another case because on SFF the screws go thru motherboard into the another side, and its impossible on another case unless I drill holes and I would also need a mini ATX extension cable for PSU since it's 10cm long and the PSU would need to float and every IT guy knows that mini ATX extensions cables are like unicorns and only 2 websites in the world sell them and they don't come cheap, and those are 2 that actually work and not those fake ones.

Would have helped if you specified the model, or atleast that it's SFF.
There you go:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125680

EDIT: Just check the spesheet to ensure that the PCIE slot outputs the full 75W.

DavidVioMC · May 18, 2016

Hlsgsz :

The problem is 960's SFF opens on the right and all the ports require to be inverted than they actually, meaning that the ports on the 750 ti would be inside in the PC and I think it would not fit anyway if I didn't care about ports is because the bracket is so huge, it wouldn't clear the hardrive bay and the motherboard.
Edit:
photo for refrence

Hlsgsz · May 18, 2016

Oh, so it would have to be both half-height AND single slot..
Can that black plastic thing thats hext to teh card be removed?

then you'd be able to use this, but with the bracket and vga connector taken off: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127836

Wolfshadw · May 18, 2016

Again, not worth the effort.

IF you can find a single slot width GT730, it might work, but that's not much of an improvement over the GT710 you already have and, imho, certainly not worth the cost.

-Wolf sends

Hlsgsz · May 18, 2016

Wolfshadw :

I would have to agree. But hey, stranger things have been done with computers

)

Hlsgsz · May 18, 2016

Well i'll be..

Somebody thought about this.
you might actually pull it off:
http://www.amazon.com/Profile-Height-Bracket-Nvidia-Graphics/dp/B0056RCS8Y/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=11SPVY2RQ2ESAYYFVPTF
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Computer-Graphics-Cards-N750TI-2GD5TLP/dp/B00SOXMPJY

Wolfshadw · May 18, 2016

Depends on what's underneath that black shroud and I still don't think the 235 watt power supply is going to run that card.

-Wolf sends

DavidVioMC · May 18, 2016

Hlsgsz :

Wolfshadw :

Inside the black box is the hardrive, and also it carrys the air from the fans to the back of PC which may affect cooling, unless I go into BIOS and overide the fans and make them run at full speed all the time. Heres a picture what it looks like with the box and hardrive removed, only takes 2 buttons pushed in to take it out:

Wolfshadw · May 18, 2016

Probably going to be a very tight squeeze and I'm not sure what that power connector is (case intrusion?) which might get in the way. Still don't think your 235 watt PSU will power a 750Ti.

-Wolf sends

DavidVioMC · May 18, 2016

Wolfshadw :

Says http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Computer-Graphics-Cards-N750TI-2GD5TLP/dp/B00SOXMPJY?tag=skim0x3152-20
400 watt is required which is wayyyyyy too much

DavidVioMC · May 18, 2016

I found a Ebay seller who is selling very very simillar PC to mine, diffrence is in RAM and hardrive but for extra money, they install 750ti's, I will shoot them a message and ask them if they change the PSU if I wanted to get the 750ti, lets see what they will say
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cheap-Dell-OptiPlex-Quad-Core-Gaming-Desktop-PC-1TB-HDD-8GB-RAM-GeForce-2GB-GFX-/201552549183?hash=item2eed77d53f:g:9gMAAOSwLs5XKL5-

Edit:
After doing re-search I found the exact card that they install inside the OptiPlex 960s
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UPGRADE-to-NEW-Gigabyte-Nvidia-GTX750Ti-2GB-GDDR5-OC-for-KelsusIT-customers-only-/182065577380?hash=item2a63f43da4:g:F8gAAOSwwpdW8~P1

Hlsgsz · May 18, 2016

DavidVioMC :

Manufacturer recommendations are a little blown up. That beeing said, running this with that PSU is pushing it. Might work, might not, might fry the PSU. SO Wolfshadw obviously has a point.
Regardless, looking at the last picture you posted, even if you were to remove the black exhaust thing, i don't think it would fit because of teh PS/2 ports.
SO that only leaves you with this: http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Profile-Graphics-02G-P4-2740-KR/dp/B00TS4551S/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1463608047&sr=1-1&keywords=02G-P4-3740-KR
PSU conearns still apply.

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