I am trying to build a new PC. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Kaminari Katuhstrofik

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Hey guys. I am attempting build a new PC. Is this future proof to a moderate extent? I am upgrading from an AMD A10 5800k (from 2013) and 8 GB of ram, etc. etc. I am currently using the R9 listed.

I intend to use this PC as a gaming/streaming machine, and have never been a fan of overclocking. I admit, I am much better at actually building and using PCs than I am at understanding specs of components and all that.

Also, if that case suffices, it does have three fan ports. Front is intake (included), and it has an empty rear and top slot. I would use the rear as exhaust and top as intake I assume?

Here is the list of components. :D


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CrKv8d

How much of an upgrade would this be from my current set up, if any?

 
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I would use the top and the rear both as exhaust rather than the top as intake. You can always try it as intake but that close to the rear exhaust may disrupt the front to back airflow and make it harder to cool the case. In terms of performance the i7 6700 is a serious upgrade from a 5800k.

When the system starts having issues playing the games you play then you may want to consider a gpu upgrade but it should do you well for the time being (or as well as the r9 380 is capable of). The i7 won't hold it back at all. The cpu, ram etc should have the core of your system running great for several years. As 'future proof' as possible if there were such a thing. Obviously higher end components with more performance will remain useful...
I would use the top and the rear both as exhaust rather than the top as intake. You can always try it as intake but that close to the rear exhaust may disrupt the front to back airflow and make it harder to cool the case. In terms of performance the i7 6700 is a serious upgrade from a 5800k.

When the system starts having issues playing the games you play then you may want to consider a gpu upgrade but it should do you well for the time being (or as well as the r9 380 is capable of). The i7 won't hold it back at all. The cpu, ram etc should have the core of your system running great for several years. As 'future proof' as possible if there were such a thing. Obviously higher end components with more performance will remain useful longer before needing to be replaced for performance reasons.

i7 6700 vs 5800k performance in a number of applications.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/675?vs=1554
 
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Kaminari Katuhstrofik

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Alright thanks! I can see the difference is pretty big. Is that taking into account the better RAM and all that? Or is that just raw CPU numbers? Regarding my R9 380, so far it's great. I've had it about 3 months now and it seems the only issues I run into are directly related to my current CPU/MoBo/RAM. Then again, I don't play super intensive games. Mainly MMOs, Marvel Heroes, I REALLY want DOOM (which is partly the reason I am building this :D), etc. etc.

I've been told on another forum that I am making a mistake by not spending the extra $60 on the 6700k and a 212 CPU fan, is this true?
 

Kaminari Katuhstrofik

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Also, between the MSI Mortar and MSI Bazooka, which MoBo is actually better? There is only a $5 difference. The only difference I really see is that the MoBo that costs $5 more has one more PCI Express 3.0 slot (4x) and "Supports AMD 2-Way CrossFireX Technology" whatever that is.
 
Ddr4 ram is a slight improvement though not much different from ddr3 in terms of performance you'd notice. Most of the performance is strictly from the processor differences. The skylake cpu's are intel's latest batch so offer the most recent improvements in terms of power and efficiency. Intel already had a significant edge in terms of ipc or instructions per clock.

More data is processed per clock cycle on intel cpu's. Sometimes people refer to it as single core performance but when dealing with a multicore (in this case a quad core) cpu, that processing performance advantage applies to each of the cores.

A 6700k would be a faster cpu out of the box yes. To get the benefits of a k series being an unlocked cpu capable of overclocking you'd want to pair it with a z170 motherboard though rather than a b150. Decent z170 boards run around $100-130 or more depending how many bells and whistles you want or need. If considering the 6700k I wouldn't slouch on the motherboard, either take advantage of a premium k series or save the cash.

Roughly $40 for the 6700k over the the 6700, another $30 give or take (I'd go with a cryorig h7 over the 212 evo if it were me, they cost around the same), another $30-50+ for a z board.. You can see where it's heading. Figure at least an additional $100-$130 for the 6700k setup without buying parts multiple times. For instance a 6700k 'will' run on a b150 board but it won't overclock. Going that route if you wanted to overclock you'd have to sell off the b150 and turn around and buy a z170, possibly have to reinstall windows with the motherboard swap and so on. Easier just to pick one or the other up front if possible, if budget allows.

Overclocking isn't necessary, overall game performance probably won't be that different but the encoding/streaming may be improved along with any other video encoding if you do that sort of thing. At stock (without overclocking) the 6700k is only 200mhz faster than the 6700 so it's kind of a waste of money if you won't be overclocking it at all.
 
The mortar appears to be the better board, it does offer 2 pcie slots if you were interested in crossfiring with another r9 380 down the road. A few other differences, the mortar has 1 ps/2 port where the bazooka has 2, one for keyboard and one for the mouse. You'll probably be using usb devices there anyway. The mortar has a slightly better audio chip and more audio outputs, an m.2 wifi port that the bazooka doesn't have. It also has heatsinks on the vrm that the bazooka doesn't have. For those things alone I'd pay the extra few $$ for the mortar model.