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Purchasing a Intel DC P3500 400GB
PCI x16 SSD, Awesome performance.
Would I be looking at Good Performance with Windows 7 x64 Professional
My hardware is Good none the less, thats all in check, but would I be looking at better Performance with just the OS and Two Games on the SSD? or just keeping my 7200rpm HDD and staying away from the SSD.
 
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You know that Intel SSD is a Data Center drive also known as an Enterprise drive. Its build to server environments. Your paying for features you will never use and the drive isn't optimized for gaming or desktop use. Its got to be close to $600 or are you buying it used? An Intel 750 SSD 400GB would be at least hundred dollars less. Its still more then you probably need.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/solid-state-drives/solid-state-drives-750-series.html

If you just want a SSD for fast boot up and game loading you could go with t Samsung 850 Evo.
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depends on many factors,
in most cases there would be 0 benefit in gaming using this ssd
a "Normal" ssd would be just as good, and much cheaper
http://techreport.com/review/29221/samsung-950-pro-512gb-ssd-reviewed/4
http://techreport.com/review/28050/intel-750-series-solid-state-drive-reviewed/5 (note the DC 3700 here)

stick with normal SSD's like the Samsung EVO 850 or alike
the other "faster" newer ssd's are mostly just hype and placebo effect with either 0 or close to 0 real world benefit difference
for 99% of users, the industrial PCI'e ssd's like the Intel DC P3500 will give 0 gain in 99% of most uses and tasks
and especially not worth it price/performance/benefit

 
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You know that Intel SSD is a Data Center drive also known as an Enterprise drive. Its build to server environments. Your paying for features you will never use and the drive isn't optimized for gaming or desktop use. Its got to be close to $600 or are you buying it used? An Intel 750 SSD 400GB would be at least hundred dollars less. Its still more then you probably need.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/solid-state-drives/solid-state-drives-750-series.html

If you just want a SSD for fast boot up and game loading you could go with t Samsung 850 Evo.
 
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It's my understanding that gaming on a SSD doesn't really increase performance at all, and virtually not anything noticeable -- it will make the game LOAD faster, but not really affect the gameplay. I saw this answered when I researched (many things including ) SSDs for my hi-performance PC build/purchase last August, and when someone bashed the guy who said what I just said all to hell, he backed it up with a lot of facts and figures and explanations that were pretty solid to look at.

I did buy a small SSD, which people said I'd regret, but I don't at all -- I have a HyperX Savage 120GB SSD that I use for Windows 10/booting/system, and a WD 1TB HDD for storage and apps and such. I play World of Tanks and it's a huge sized game, I keep it on the HDD regardless. I would think you'd have better gaming performance increases putting the money elsewhere but certainly, don't NOT get an SSD cause I said so.
 
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Yes, the real benefit of an SSD is for fast boot up and loading games & programs unless your program or game is accessing the drive repeatedly then it will help. I bought a 120GB SSD 1st and man I did regret it later I later bought a 250GB and that seems the right size for me. Of course the way SSD prices are dropping I wouldn't rule out getting a bigger on in the future.
 
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true for alot of games, but since the OP also mentioned Windows, it would be a good idea if he, like you, got a "normal" ssd, atleast for the OS; but certainly not teh industrial SSD he had suggested,
some games do benefit more from SSD's than others, but that is indeed mainly in regard to loading time
(which can actually be a huge difference ssd-hdd in some games),
some games however do also benefit in other aspects,
an example could be a modded Fallout/Skyrim, or large open world games, where textures and such are loaded differently than just on initial level load like in say CounterStrike

the SSD will always be the last/least performance gain in gaming ofc, but since OP states his "hardware is good" im presuming we are at the point where an SSD upgrade be it 80$ 240gb, or more/less size/price, would be worth it, more so if also factoring in OS and other apps currently running on HDD, then a "basic ssd upgrade" is always a good start
(just like your HyperX Savage ;))

but most definitely NOT an industrial like ssd as the Intel DC P3500, or any of the sort, just a decent "normal" ssd 120gb or 240+gb depending on your price point, 250gb is usually the best price/GB storage and performance vs 120gb
 
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Yeah I realized after I posted that I neglected to wade into the industrial-SSD pool -- that is something else entirely, as both my esteemed colleagues littleleo and Gnuffi pointed out so succintly .... this is not what you're even remotely interested in. a "normal" SSD is way more useful and of course affordable and certainly practical.

I can understand people saying 120GB is small for them; some might regret it. I purposely made my system fully upgradeable and planned on a few future upgrades (another 2x8GB RAM to max at 32 some day, another SSD, maybe someday perhaps an extra GTX 970 for SLI, but that's way down the road, maybe a >>> 1080p monitor someday) -- if you'd want to go to 240-250GBish that's all good too.

But definitely running your Windows and booting on a SSD will increase bootup and system access quickness.... maybe will help somewhat with your gaming , certainly no negatives other than lifespan, and as mentioned, the prices are coming down so there's always a good deal to find!
 
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120gb is perfect for OS
the reason i recommend the 240/250gb models, is that they are usually only about 20$ more for 2x the size, and you get increased speed(not that any1 can notice) and reliability too
thats the only reason 250gb is recommended, since price to performance to size, it beats the 120gb on all points
but 120gb is perfect enough in size for OS, and is fine when people are on a budget or have other reasons to not go for the larger size drive at first
and like you said, one can always upgrade later at some point
the important thing is to get OS on ssd to start with, and have it be a size where there is plenty of room so it doesnt get hampered, for taht 120gb is just perfect, and still room to a couple of small games ;)
(putting windows on a 20-40gb SSD isnt great because those small drives are slower, and the OS size on teh drive would contribute even further to it getting slower)

 
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A 120GB is perfect for the O/S and maybe a small program or game. For me I'm a little bit of a gamer so I wanted my Blizzard stuff on there. Warcraft, Diablo3, Starcraft... then I put Batman on it then AC ...you get the idea. I also decided I wanted my office programs to load fast so for me a 250GB is a much better fit. Besides my 120GB had a bus issue so I had to send it in and while I was waiting I got a 250GB EVO model, and when I got the 120GB back they sent me a brand new model I put it on my old ladies computer and she loves it. Get whichever you want the prices are great you can get 250GB for less then I bought my 120GB for these days. It isn't that hard to upgrade later if you want too.
 
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