Having trouble deciding on r7 370 or 750ti...space problem

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Originally planned on getting a gigabyte 370 but since I'm putting it into an old hp case, it might not fit with the power pins being on top and the psu I have has thick cables(cx600).

I might have to settle on getting a 750ti and I was looking at an asus strix since it doesn't seem to require being plugged into the psu. I know they aren't miles apart but I would like to get the better of the two. Is there a big noticeable difference between the two? I pretty much only play csgo right now but I have quite a few games in my library that I can't bear to play anymore because of the frames.

Here's an inside image of the pc
http://i.imgur.com/yC9vBzb.jpg

The r7 370 I wanted to get would nearly be tight in there if the specs are correct.

My pc being only
Height: 36.8 cm (14.4 inches)
Width: 16.5 cm (6.4 inches)
Depth: 38.9 cm (15.3 inches)
 
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Ha ha, what an idiot I am. Here you go... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127783&cm_re=msi_750-_-14-127-783-_-Product
You can check out Nicolas's review here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfnA-ir8Uho
The BIOS switch is shown around 2:25.
The card's dimensions that you need to know are 9.84" long x 5.04" high.

I'd say you have better than a 50/50 chance of it working. Just not any where near 100%. I would have recommended the R7-370 over the GTX 750 Ti if it weren't for the issue I had with it. But that may not affect you. If you are a Newegg Premier or Amazon Prime customer, there is no cost for returns, and you get free return shipping. Plus 2 day delivery on orders.
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If this is an older HP, I recommend hitting the HP forums and asking which cards will be recognized. Older HPs have issues with newer cards using UEFI BIOS. Both those cards you mention have a UEFI BIOS.
One option: This GTX 750 Ti is one of the few that comes with a BIOS switch to change between UEFI and legacy BIOSs. https://www.malwarebytes.org/
 
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Alright thanks. My bios version is ami 7.06, 8/16/2011. How can I check if a card has UEFI BIOS, google?

This is a response I received from someone at the hp forums.
"You are correct to be concerned about any of the newer cards after the GT 640's. All of them require UEFI instead of a Legacy BIOS. Your best option is to choose a card and contact the manufacturer's Tech Support to assure that it will work with your motherboard."

If that's true, that's a huge let down since I cannot build a pc right now or buy much else to increase this one's performance.

I also came across this thread earlier today http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2116039/uefi-designated-graphics-card-120.html There seems to be a lot of conflict in this area.
 
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That's why I suggested asking several folks on the HP forum. Older HPs seem to be the most common failure-prone systems when it comes to gfx card compatibility. I personally have had good luck with older boards and and new cards... except for one. I could not get an older Intel DP45SG motherboard (LGA 775) to recognize my Gigabyte R7-370. The card worked on several other boards I tested, and every other card in my collection worked on the Intel board. I had to assume it was a legacy/UEFI conflict between those two devices.

The best and surest way to determine if the card you choose will FIT in your machine is to simply measure. Check the specs of the particular card you want (they vary), and then measure from the expansion slot cover to the first obstruction the card will come to. In your case, it looks like the wad of cables is the only obstruction in the picture.
 
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Alright. It sounds like it's more or less 50/50 with this favoring the won't work side. Would you mind re-linking the 750ti, you linked malwarebytes.

The space problem I had in mind was that the power connector for the gpu is going to be very close to the side panel resulting in either not being able to plug it in or not being able to put the panel back on without it crunching the cabels or just out right not fitting back on.
 
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Ha ha, what an idiot I am. Here you go... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127783&cm_re=msi_750-_-14-127-783-_-Product
You can check out Nicolas's review here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfnA-ir8Uho
The BIOS switch is shown around 2:25.
The card's dimensions that you need to know are 9.84" long x 5.04" high.

I'd say you have better than a 50/50 chance of it working. Just not any where near 100%. I would have recommended the R7-370 over the GTX 750 Ti if it weren't for the issue I had with it. But that may not affect you. If you are a Newegg Premier or Amazon Prime customer, there is no cost for returns, and you get free return shipping. Plus 2 day delivery on orders.
 
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Thank you for the help. I'm going to definitely look harder into this now. You may have saved quite some money :).
 
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