Budget gaming reviving the HP Compaq dc7900 e8400 vs q6600

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Hello all I m building an extreme Budget gaming PC for my friend we are going to revive the HP Compaq dc7900 by adding an HD 7750 I picked up for $25. The PC is $65 on eBay with all the basic components needed to run so my question is I can pick up an Intel core 2 quad (2.66ghz) for $15 and put it in this machine would this be worth it or will the Intel core 2 duo e8400 (3ghz) give roughly the same performance note I do not plan on overclocking as components are not set up for it and I'm a little sketched out of Oc locked motherboard and CPU on a 10 year old pc thanks in advance for the advice link of pc below

http://m.ebay.com/itm/HP-Compaq-dc7900-E8400-3-00GHz-4gb-DDR2-160gb-DVD-RW-No-OS-/322088283908?nav=SEARCH
 
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I guess it depends on the game. It's true that many new games are moving toward quad core cpu's though are those AAA titles what you have in mind for such a low budget gaming pc? My e8400 bottlenecked my hd 7850 a bit even when it was overclocked to 3.6ghz. It did ok on older games and was close to 60fps most of the time for things like halo, far cry etc.

A little confusion, are you talking about a q6600 or q8400? You mentioned a core2quad at 2.66ghz but mentioned the q6600 which is 2.4ghz, not 2.66. The q8400 is 2.66ghz.

Keep in mind that along with quad core cpu's newer AAA games are looking at more recent 3rd/4th gen i3's and i5's. There was a significant performance step from the c2d/c2q, the first gen i series and the first gen...

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Could you give specific reasoning? As well as maybe some benchmarks and in game results to back it up? I don't doubt your decision just wondering why you would say it I don't want to just blindly take it on faith that it's better
 

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E8400 vs Q6600
E8400 is 1 year newer
45 nm vs 65 nm
3 GHz vs 2.4 GHz
2 cores vs 4 cores
65 W vs 105 W TDP

These are the relevant specs for each cpu. For gaming those 2 cores are enough.
 

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I'm just not so sure that 3ghz on a dual core beats 2.66ghz on quad core yes I understand most games use no more than 2 cores but with newer gen games they actually have the ability to use multiple cores and threads and in most games they are gpu dependent so more than likely the low end gpu is going to bottle neck before the CPU does unless we are talking about some of the newer games that are pretty taxing on cpu's but those games in specific can use multiple threads and cores which is why I'm leaning towards the q6600 but I'm just not sure how they will perform in game side by side since they are both older cpu's I guess my friend should just be lucky I can build him any pc for $100 let alone one that can be used for light gaming
 
I guess it depends on the game. It's true that many new games are moving toward quad core cpu's though are those AAA titles what you have in mind for such a low budget gaming pc? My e8400 bottlenecked my hd 7850 a bit even when it was overclocked to 3.6ghz. It did ok on older games and was close to 60fps most of the time for things like halo, far cry etc.

A little confusion, are you talking about a q6600 or q8400? You mentioned a core2quad at 2.66ghz but mentioned the q6600 which is 2.4ghz, not 2.66. The q8400 is 2.66ghz.

Keep in mind that along with quad core cpu's newer AAA games are looking at more recent 3rd/4th gen i3's and i5's. There was a significant performance step from the c2d/c2q, the first gen i series and the first gen i series and the 2nd gen i series.

The q6600 vs a first gen i5 750
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/109?vs=53

And the q6600 vs a 2500k (stock)
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/53?vs=288

So yes, it's a quad core however it will get smoked by even old i5's that are the typical quad cores newer AAA games are referencing. The games you're likely to be playing will probably be older titles so no real demand for quad core and will benefit from higher clock speeds. The e8400 would be the preference. If looking at newer gen games I'd consider newer gen hardware. A pc gaming at all for $100 is a pretty big ask.

Just on a side note, I don't think the cpu is going to matter a whole lot. Doubtful the cpu will be the bottleneck, I was thinking the 7750 and 7850 were closer to one another than they are. I don't know what games you're intending for this, some 7750 benchmark scores. Quite a few games in the sub 30fps and closer to 20fps. It's getting into slideshow quality with fps that slow on some of these games.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/535

I'm not sure what power supply came with that system since it didn't originally come with a dedicated gpu (even though the 7750 only pulls around 20-40w). There's no os included with that system so that will be another $80-100. Might have to find an old copy of windows that has the drivers for such an old chipset. It might be worth saving up a bit more money for something that will actually do what you're looking to do with it rather than invest $100+ into such outdated hardware that will have little to no resale value. Not trying to be a wet blanket here, it would be one thing if you had these components just laying around. That's not the case here though.
 
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I will be picking up a copy of Windows 7 home premium 64bit w/ OEM key for 22.50 through kinguine and I have a 350w 80+ psu just laying around. and i see your point e8400 it is mostly it's going to be just simple tasks like Google docs and web browsing for his college needs with the added benefit of light gaming such as leauges of Legends or wow as well as I am also picking up an r2 cert 500gb HDD at 7200 rpm from my local recycle electronics for $16 if that helps and the hd7750 was a card I bought on a whim almost a year ago from the same establishment just because I love to build PC's and figured I'd use it in one some day.i am giving to my friend as a gift to satisfy my urge to build and his wallet lol