What is a good gaming CPU for a AM3+ socket that is better than the fx8350

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JettyS

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I have the AMD FX8350 and I want to get a better processor should I get a AMD processor or should I get an Intel.
 
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As others have said you're pretty much at the limit for amd. The fx 8xxx and 9xxx cpu's are very similar with different clock speeds from the factory. Fx 8350's overclock decent enough if you've got a motherboard that will handle it. It's not about amd being power hungry or anything else, it's an 8 core cpu and those cores need fed extra power to get it overclocked. Stands to reason you'll need solid power delivery, more than the typical 3+1 or 4+1 vrm phase boards.

Even with a relatively high overclock it takes a lot of speed to help raise the performance since they have lower ipc (getting less done per clock). Think of it like pedaling a bike in a low gear, how many times faster you have to pedal to actually increase your mph.

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honestly these guys know exactly what up ^^^^ the 8350 is as good as it gets. the fx-9XXX are just a higher clocked version of what you have that put out more heat and suck more juice. you can get your 8350 running just as fast as a 9590 by overclocking...and you can do it for free basically...and then you have an 8350!
 
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/w6PyNG for skylake(more expensive motherboard as well as you need to purchase ddr4 memory, this is a cheap cooler in this build, it will do the job but id recommend something better if you decide to overclock, has an upgrade path)

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XpjCQ7 for haswell(has no upgrade path, can use the ram in your current system, much much better and quieter cooler, performs close to the same as the build above)
 
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As others have said you're pretty much at the limit for amd. The fx 8xxx and 9xxx cpu's are very similar with different clock speeds from the factory. Fx 8350's overclock decent enough if you've got a motherboard that will handle it. It's not about amd being power hungry or anything else, it's an 8 core cpu and those cores need fed extra power to get it overclocked. Stands to reason you'll need solid power delivery, more than the typical 3+1 or 4+1 vrm phase boards.

Even with a relatively high overclock it takes a lot of speed to help raise the performance since they have lower ipc (getting less done per clock). Think of it like pedaling a bike in a low gear, how many times faster you have to pedal to actually increase your mph.

You could wait for zen though that will require a new cpu, mobo, ram and won't be out until the end of the year. No real word on price or actual performance so it would be a waiting game to see if it's worth it.

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CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99)
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For what it's worth, no intel boards really have an upgrade path. There's no gain moving only one generation, it's a sidegrade at best. The only real upgrade is from an i3 to i5 to i7, not i5 3570k to 4670k. By the time there's something worth upgrading to it will be on a new socket/motherboard. Consider buying the cpu and mobo as a pair rather than expecting the motherboard to last several generations of cpu, it just doesn't work that way anymore.

The upgrade path for haswell/d.c. would be from the 4690k to 4790k so there is an upgrade path there. As good as any upgrade path on skylake if going with a 6600k.
 
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Broadwell did have a better igp yes, but that's all it had going for it. They upgraded efficiency then gimped the clock speeds making it equal to haswell/d.c. The 4690k was stronger than the 5675c.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1261?vs=1500

Same with the 4790k and 5775c.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1260?vs=1501

No one with a haswell i5 or i7 would have bothered with the broadwell sidegrade. Now if someone were coming from an older cpu and upgraded to a new i5 or whatever and that happened to be broadwell then sure. But not from the previous gen. Same with the 2nd to 3rd gen, unless the upgrade was from an i3/i5 to an i7 those sticking with the same cpu (say an i5) and upgrading simply to go from a 2nd to 3rd gen were burning money to get a sidegrade. It's always been this way.

Those with a 2500k saw no reason to jump on a 3570k, most didn't bother with a 4670k, 5675c and are now considering the 6600k as a worthwhile upgrade. They skipped an entire socket and 2 gens (with a refresh) with no trouble. Same will happen with skylake, kabylake, cannonlake. Unless intel comes up with some serious magic which I highly doubt. Things are getting tougher at smaller die sizes not easier. If going from 22nm to 14nm was a pain, wait until 10nm or 7nm.

Even if broadwell hadn't been delayed it was more or less an efficiency bump with no performance gains. The best thing it had going for it was the mobile market due to the improved igpu. Intel didn't even want to release broadwell to desktop, the improved igpu and lower power requirements were mobile perks. Most people are using dedicated gpu's anyway which still smoke even broadwell integrated graphics.
 
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The Broadwell desktop chips never had an enthusiast variant that ran the higher clock speeds. It COULD have been more than what it was for desktop, but Intel had so many delays going to 14nm that they just kind of quietly released it, then hyped up Skylake.

I agree, usually not worthwhile to jump from one gen to the next - but if you start off with something like an i3, an i5 or i7 from the next gen can be a worthwhile upgrade.
 
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