GTX 960 or R9 380 with AMD 8320

theorminator

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Hello,

I currently own a Pc with an AMD 8320 CPU and a Gigabyte GTX 660 OC on a Gigabyte 990FXA UD3 motherboard and 2x 4gb kingston ram modules also my power supply is the Corsair CX 500W(not sure about the PSU i will update it if i am wrong once i get home since i am at work) and i am considering a GPU upgrade since i got some FPS issues.

My first question is in regards to bottlenecking, i have noticed FPS drops or low fps on games like Path of Exile or Diablo 3 where i would get from 20fps to 40-50 max with the average being 35fps in high mob density forcing me to use medium to High settings at best with 4x antialiasing.

Does this sound like a bottleneck case? Also when it comes to choosing a GPU to upgrade to would you suggest GTX 960 or R9 380 with my current setup?

Thanks in advance for your replies!

UPDATE: As i suspected i my PSU isn't the one i mentioned. My PSU is the CoolerMaster GX650W (Sorry for any confusion)
 

Krishan Mourya

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The reason you are getting low FPS is because of your PSU it can handle none of the GPUs you mentioned. You need atleast an 650W PSU for running any of the mentioned GPUs with an FX 8320.
And the R9 380 is easily the winner because it beats GTX 960 in performance and All the AMD GPUs are getting significant advantages in DirectX 12 based games. While the NVIDIA Counterparts are not showing any performance gains as till now.
 

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I own the GTX 960 and it is a decent 1080p card, the R9 380X tends to beat it in many benchmarks while it is fairly close with the R9 380 (no X). I would personally edge towards the R9 380 simply because AMD cards seem to have some advantages for DX12 over Maxwell based cards and NVidia. The CX series PSU's aren't really brilliant units and personally I would have put something better in my machine. However it should suffice to power either the R9 380 or the 960 GTX.

You might though just want to hang fire for the 1st June when AMD will hopefully reveal there new range of middle performance GPU's, if the rumours are true the R9 480 will be very tempting at this price point.
 

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Not only Maxwell cards but the newer Pascal cards are also facing issues with DX12 as much as I'm aware. And yeah waiting for AMD's Polaris GPUs would be worth the wait. Polaris GPUs are highly energy efficient and wont consume anything above 54W TDP. But still i think getting a better quality PSU would be a nice touch.
 
Establish which component is creating the bottleneck before you upgrade anything. Isometric RPGs tend to be CPU-intensive, so check CPU usage in Task Manager when you start a game. If one of the threads sits at 100% then you have a CPU bottleneck. You can use MSI Afterburner to check GPU usage.

The CX series PSU isn't the best, but it's fine for your use. Just don't overclock the CPU or GPU.

Between the GTX 960 and R9 380, the latter generally offers better performance, but like I said, check which component is creating the bottleneck before you upgrade.
 

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Yeah but for his case FX 8320 is an decent Processor. If you check the total wattage of the system then his system touches almost 90% load on the PSU which can significantly cause bottlenecks if the PSU isnt of good quality
 

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Yeah but for his case FX 8320 is an decent Processor. If you check the total wattage of the system then his system touches almost 90% load on the PSU which can significantly cause bottlenecks if the PSU isnt of good quality
 
The PSU is close to 90% load, yes, but only when every component is at 100% load. Under normal conditions, the load is considerably less and 408W (which the PSU supplies) is perfectly sufficient.

The FX-8320 is an average CPU at best and only shines in heavily multi-threaded applications. Its poor single-threaded performance is the most likely cause of the OP's problem.
 

Krishan Mourya

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Bro PSU can easily go to 90% load while gaming and doing any extensive work.
 

theorminator

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UPDATE: As i suspected i my PSU isn't the one i mentioned. My PSU is the CoolerMaster GX650W (Sorry for any confusion)

Adding this here as well in case the thread edit doesn't notify you guys!

Thanks again for the replies!!
 

theorminator

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So i ran some tests with , Path of Exile, Diablo III and ARK it seems that the problem is my GPU since my CPU at Path of Exile and Diablo III is max 40 to 50% and all cores seem to be utilized on the other hand my GPU is at 70% to 98%.

In regards to Ark now here things are way more clear since my GPU is constantly at 98% when on High Settings and at 90-95% on low and the CPU is at 40% with very small spikes up to 80% that last for 1 sec or so.

It seems that the GPU is the issue correct?
Also is there any chance that my PSU since it is a bronze PSU is not supplying enough power to my GPU?

Thanks in advance

 

Krishan Mourya

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Ah, so the Cooler Master GX650W is an almost below average PSU and I dont recommend it for a gaming Setup like yours. Also in some tests this PSU was not able to provide its total wattage, it struggled around 600 watts and going up caused voltage instabilities so ur PSU is ur problem ofcourse and you have to change it to a good one with atleast 750W of power. I again recommend Seasonic M12II 750W PSU as it will never fail you.
 

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My only concern right now is if my CPU would bottleneck a GPU from the new AMD series that will propably be announced in a few hours, lets wait and see and i may return to this thread to further discuss this.