I recently just upgraded my computer set up due to my motherboard dying. My previous set up was a 790 FXA motherboard running a 4 core Phenom II. I went up to a 990 FXA board running a six core 6300. I checked out the specs on the AMD motherboard and realized that everything the ram to the pcie slots are a generation behind. I am thinking why is that? I cannot even run my PCIE Gen3 video card at full specs because AMD motherboards are still Gen2. I feel a little ripped off right now and I am considering returning my new parts and switching to Intel. I am kind of pissed off right now.
Why do AMD motherboards suck?
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Tradesman1
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It's all a few years behind, AMD hasn't really offered anything new in the CPU area since the 8350 a few years back (except for the oddball OCed 8350s like the 8370, 9590 and 9570 - without new CPUs sort of hard for mobo makers to intro new mobos when the tech available via the CPU is so old
My card is an R9 270X which is not really a very high end card. I paid 200 bucks for it. Yet the bus on it is PCI Express x16 3.0. The board's slot for it is 2.0. I don't see why the board manufactures would not up date the board to accommodate the card.
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PCIe 3.0 vs 2.0 has basically negligible benefits in games. Hardwaresecrets just did testing on this.
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You should know that even when one high end graphics card is installed the differences in performances between pcie 3.0 and pcie 2.0 are minimal
They just don't matter.
PCIe 3.0 is purely a marketing strategy for you to buy a pcie 3.0 MOBO. Likely when Intel recommends core i7 CPUs for gaming, they are not necessary.
Only in certain cases while doing crossfire for examble because some motherboards work at X4 in that case maybe PCIe 3.0 is ideal, otherwise performance is almost identical
Now, FX CPUs and MOBOs are a bit outdated, even though they came out five years ago. I agree
AMD hasn't made remarkable things since the Athlon and Phenom II processors while Intel's already released 14nm tecnology.
Then it is only worth it to buy a AMD cpu in very sphecific cases such as cheap 3D rendering (with a quadro) and ultra light desktop gaming or light mobile gaming. Otherwise you have everything you need on an Intel CPU, less power consumption, more single core power, more updated features and technologies, more upgreade capabilities
But who knows wait for the new AM4 Zen CPUs perhaps they finally have something to offer in case they don't. Grab an Intel CPU
They just don't matter.
PCIe 3.0 is purely a marketing strategy for you to buy a pcie 3.0 MOBO. Likely when Intel recommends core i7 CPUs for gaming, they are not necessary.
Only in certain cases while doing crossfire for examble because some motherboards work at X4 in that case maybe PCIe 3.0 is ideal, otherwise performance is almost identical
Now, FX CPUs and MOBOs are a bit outdated, even though they came out five years ago. I agree
AMD hasn't made remarkable things since the Athlon and Phenom II processors while Intel's already released 14nm tecnology.
Then it is only worth it to buy a AMD cpu in very sphecific cases such as cheap 3D rendering (with a quadro) and ultra light desktop gaming or light mobile gaming. Otherwise you have everything you need on an Intel CPU, less power consumption, more single core power, more updated features and technologies, more upgreade capabilities
But who knows wait for the new AM4 Zen CPUs perhaps they finally have something to offer in case they don't. Grab an Intel CPU
amd cpu's are cheap compared to intel it's a question of bang per buck. amd can handle heavy gaming though. a $105 fx6300 can give that card what it needs. the 6300 isn't a heavy gamer cpu though.. my bro has a 6300 with 8gb 1600 and a 270x 2gb he plays world of warships at 1080p with graphics cranked I watch him play and don't see any frame drops.
it is time amd did something besides nothing though. they are doing well with graphics but the cpu development is seriously lagging
it is time amd did something besides nothing though. they are doing well with graphics but the cpu development is seriously lagging
CountMike
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It's getting ridiculous but it's also been for some years now. Everybody is repeating like a parrot: Intel is Better, Intel is better like if it had 10 to 1 advantage but at same segment it may be only few percent. Not everybody is playing games and certainly not only one threaded games where some intels have advantage.
As for IGPU, Intel IGPU sucks big time and lags behind APUs even more. It's there to throw some picture and that's it.
Furthermore, small percent have super duper, expensive GPUs that require big time horsepower CPU.
Another thing I don't fancy Intel processors for is Intel's constant changing of sockets and platforms and all sockets starting with 775 have ridiculously sensitive sockets were smallest mistake can lead to MB trashing.
So Intel processors and platform is not something out of this world and best thing since sliced bread. A nicely put together AMD system can do perfect job for 90% of users for decent money/performance ratio,
Take an APU A10 xxxxk, put on a micro ATX board with 16 GB of fast RAM, a smallish PSU and you can have a quite capable machine for less money.
As for IGPU, Intel IGPU sucks big time and lags behind APUs even more. It's there to throw some picture and that's it.
Furthermore, small percent have super duper, expensive GPUs that require big time horsepower CPU.
Another thing I don't fancy Intel processors for is Intel's constant changing of sockets and platforms and all sockets starting with 775 have ridiculously sensitive sockets were smallest mistake can lead to MB trashing.
So Intel processors and platform is not something out of this world and best thing since sliced bread. A nicely put together AMD system can do perfect job for 90% of users for decent money/performance ratio,
Take an APU A10 xxxxk, put on a micro ATX board with 16 GB of fast RAM, a smallish PSU and you can have a quite capable machine for less money.
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isn't intel going to lock people out of ALL past versions of windows with their processors now/soon? i doubt AMD will do the same - historically they seem to support a wider range of OS generations
in my server-room-full-of-parts, about half of the boards and half of the CPUs are intel, the other half are AMD.
in my server-room-full-of-parts, about half of the boards and half of the CPUs are intel, the other half are AMD.
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