Do i need to upgrade my CPU with these things in mind?

jasonhickman17 · May 28, 2016

This forum has been great thus far and i am sure that it is only going to get better!

Anyways, Currently my gaming rig is as follows :
gigabyte ga-z170hd3p motherboard, intel i5-6400, corsair h110i gtx, gskill ripjaws 4 ddr4 16gb, adata premier sp550 240GB, evga supernova 750 W psu, and gtx 970 sc acx 2.0, seagate 2tb 7200rpm * 2, and the case which is a corsair 780t

So i have saved up about 1000$ and am looking at giving my computer an upgrade, currently the monitor is just a 1080p monitor with a 60hz refresh rate and a 5ms response time, not the best for gaming but at the time i got it for photo editing and it has worked very well for that purpose. I was thinking that later this year when the Nvidia GTX 1080 either comes down in price with the third party cards [or the AMD cards come out and are a better value, i am no fan boy

] i would pick up one of those. Now in the mean time until this happens there is no way i am getting a new GPU as the market is going to be changing with the new cards that have come out so far and with the ones that are yet to come.

QUESTION: So my question is that i was wondering if the cpu that i have right now would need an upgrade before i grab the 1080 or if i would be fine given that i will mostly be playing FPS shooters such as BF4, COD BO3, DOOM so on and so forth, at 144Hz and above at either 1080p or more resolution, as i have seen in the JayzTwoCents video the ACX 3.0 SC version of the card was able to play DOOM maxed out at 4K above 60Hz without an issue?

So do i need to make the change to the CPU or should i be good for the next cards that are going to be hitting the market?

As for the upgrade i think that i have the CPU path nailed down and it will most likely be switching over to X99 as this thread helped me decide here http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3024638/socket-realistic-future-proofing.html and a big thanks to turkey3_scratch for the help on that thread, as for right now the i5-6400 is running ACAD and other workstation type programs pretty well but gets bogged down on the larger 3d renderings, so i may have to upgrade sooner than i think.

Between now and then i would like to pick up a good 4K gaming monitor but am not sure what that will be yet i need it to have at least good to great color accuracy though because of the amount of photography that i do. I also want it to have a high refresh rate even if that refresh rate means that i have to run the monitor at a much lower resolution i would be okay with that as well. Also i will probably pick up an SD card reader that will go in the 5.25 bays, a better motherboard for better overclocking performance (although i dont want to change the motherboard until i know if i need a CPU upgrade, as i already have the DDR4 memory i dont really want to change the socket to one that is not able to use the DDR4 or else that will be a large waste of funds. I will be upgrading the storage to a couple more HDD's, one more SSD (for now) and running the SSD's in RAID 0, possibly getting an M.2 SSD and getting nice looking fans for the case, right now i have the stock white ones that came with my corsair 780t and i took the LED's out and soldered in some red ones, a big difference in looks as i really want to stick with a red and black theme for the inside of the case and the outside of the case is white.

Thanks for taking the time to read and reply to this post it is greatly appreciated!

Jason

basroil · May 28, 2016

You don't NEED to upgrade, though for some games it may be beneficial, but you likely won't tell the difference. For CPU based rendering however, a CPU upgrade will certainly improve performance, and the 6700K overclocked to 4.2 might give you ~2x performance over the 6400.

Tradesman1 · May 28, 2016

You have a solid basis for a higher end rig, jump the CPU to a 6700K maybe a 212 EVO or an H7 cooler, then once the new GPUs roll out see what you think on them

jasonhickman17 · May 28, 2016

Tradesman1 :

Thanks for the advice! As for the cpu cooler i am not sure if i updated the thread before you read it but i have the corsair h110i gtx which is better in my opinion than the hyper 212 as i already had that and when i was bclk overclocking i thought that i needed a bit better heat dissipation, i almost went with the noctua nhd15, i was really really close but then i thought that i would like to have the tubes running through my computer instead of a large heatsink, maybe i made the wrong choice but that is a cheap enough change and one that will not make me lose sleep

You also think that the 6700K is all of the CPU that i need for gaming and ACAD? Hmm, i guess we will see what happens with the new GPU's first, then if i feel that i would like to make the upgrade to compensate for the higher needs of a higher refresh rate monitor and higher resolution then i will not upgrade the CPU to X99 instead i will go with the 6700K or if intel is fast enough i may even get to dive in on the Kabby Lake.

Thanks for the help,
It is greatly appreciated!

Jason

jasonhickman17 · May 28, 2016

basroil :

2x the performance for 2x the price, i am okay with those odds

Thanks for the input i will see what happens with the new GPU releases, if i hop on the train of one of the new GPUs i will go 6700K and if not i will go with the X99 Line.

Thanks for the help, it is always greatly appreciated!

Jason

Tradesman1 · May 29, 2016

jasonhickman17 :

Tradesman1 :

Thanks for the advice! As for the cpu cooler i am not sure if i updated the thread before you read it but i have the corsair h110i gtx which is better in my opinion than the hyper 212 as i already had that and when i was bclk overclocking i thought that i needed a bit better heat dissipation, i almost went with the noctua nhd15, i was really really close but then i thought that i would like to have the tubes running through my computer instead of a large heatsink, maybe i made the wrong choice but that is a cheap enough change and one that will not make me lose sleep

You also think that the 6700K is all of the CPU that i need for gaming and ACAD? Hmm, i guess we will see what happens with the new GPU's first, then if i feel that i would like to make the upgrade to compensate for the higher needs of a higher refresh rate monitor and higher resolution then i will not upgrade the CPU to X99 instead i will go with the 6700K or if intel is fast enough i may even get to dive in on the Kabby Lake.

Thanks for the help,
It is greatly appreciated!

Jason

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Didn't see the AIO, but that would more than suffice for a 6700K, and it will more than suffice for gaming and ACAD

jasonhickman17 · May 29, 2016

Tradesman1 :

Sounds good! Thanks for all of the help, i saw that you had this in your sig;
6600K-4.7, Z170 Hero,48GB 3200 TriZ, 980Ti Strix
a couple of questions, Why the i5? and Is that the a board that you would recommend for someone looking for solid overclocking performance?

Inkiad · May 29, 2016

Also if you have a 60hz 1080p display, gtx 1080 is a overkill. If you get a 1920x1080 144hz panel and want your fps above 100+ all the time or a 4K panel then you need GTX 1080.

jasonhickman17 · May 29, 2016

Inkiad :

That is the plan is to get a monitor that is capable of high refresh rates, fast gtg, high resolution, as well as high color accuracy. I am not able to do all of the upgrades at once so i do them incrementally, planning out the right route to go as i am sure that many others do as well, that is why i am looking at getting the 1080. Also my monitor is on its way out it started clicking not too long ago.

Thanks for the input!

Jason

Tradesman1 · May 29, 2016

jasonhickman17 :

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My last two are both i7s (4770K) which is still great for the multi-threaded apps and am semi planning a 6700K rig, maybe on the Z170 Hero Alpha or Deluxe. The 6600K replaced my 3570K rig and wanted an i5 in the shop for people to see and play with. And yes I highly recommend the Hero, I almost went with the Pro Gaming, but my rigs get a pretty stiff workout, I've a bunch of sets of DRAM in this, numerous GPUs including SLI 980s and XFire 290Xs, about a half dozen different coolers and it purrs with anything I throw at it

jasonhickman17 · May 29, 2016

Tradesman1 :

Okay thanks for the info on the board, there was another from that lineup that has the same dac chip that my NAD D1050 Dac has that is in my hifi setup currently so i was thinking about getting that one but the hero seems like a really high quality board that i would be more than happy with at a much lower price as well, thanks for letting me know that the board runs well i have only ever had one mobo that was terrible but it is always nice to have first hand experience before the fact!

Tradesman1 · May 29, 2016

jasonhickman17 :

Tradesman1 :

Okay thanks for the info on the board, there was another from that lineup that has the same dac chip that my NAD D1050 Dac has that is in my hifi setup currently so i was thinking about getting that one but the hero seems like a really high quality board that i would be more than happy with at a much lower price as well, thanks for letting me know that the board runs well i have only ever had one mobo that was terrible but it is always nice to have first hand experience before the fact!

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Be glad, I've gotten some real stinkers over the years, I'm down to only three brands I'll do client builds on (Asus, the Rock and GB) and even with those you occasionally get a bad mobo, but I see and run into a lot of bad ones from other manufacturers when I get problem calls for diagnosing/fixing i.e. I get more problem calls on MSI mobos than any two other manufacturers put together

Poor QC

jasonhickman17 · May 30, 2016

Tradesman1 :

Well that is good to know, i guess that i will never get an MSI motherboard!

As for your prefered three boards those are the only boards that i have ever built with and currently in our house we have three gigabyte motherboards all are running perfectly without issue from the start, that being said i have had issues but that was with other parts of the computer

How is the return policy on MSI products i have honestly never owned one and was considering one of their GPUs, does this bad QC spread into their GPU market as well or is it strictly motherboard bound?

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