Help with 700$-800$ Gaming PC Build

Vapeon

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I need help building a 700$-800$ PC for gaming. Im planning to buy it in the next month or so. I already have a monitor keyboard and mouse. I want to be able to run most games with 60 fps or higher on high settings.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($187.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.49 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B150 Gaming M3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($105.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($33.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($61.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($42.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380X 4GB PCS+ Myst. Edition Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($61.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($21.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $806.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-30 17:35 EDT-0400
 

Vapeon

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I have seen a Build like this and was wondering if it was any good.
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($223.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 45.0 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.38 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($77.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($31.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($289.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $778.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 

Vapeon

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anyway you can lower this to less than 800?
 
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You can cut out the Hyper 212 EVO cooler and get the retail i5-6500 which comes with it's stock cooler. If you want to cut costs even more, I could suggest a cheaper motherboard - but it won't have the gaming features of the MSI board.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150 Gaming M3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($105.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($33.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($61.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($41.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380X 4GB PCS+ Myst. Edition Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($61.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($21.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $782.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-30 20:16 EDT-0400
 

Vapeon

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Do you currently have that build? If so how much FPS do you get in games?
 

CV_Taihou

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I have used a good chunk of the parts before. At 1080p 60HZ it will be able to easily pull 60+ fps in pretty much every title
 
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Here's my latest revised version. Had to change a few parts, but you get 16GB of RAM and a bigger SSD.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H170 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($91.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($48.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Z400s 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($41.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380X 4GB PCS+ Myst. Edition Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($5.99 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($5.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $764.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-30 21:36 EDT-0400

 

CV_Taihou

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Why the Tier 3 PSU? It's overkill but the 750B2 is a very good Tier 2 PSU for less money?
 
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I didn't have mail-in rebates enabled to show up on pcpartpicker so I didn't notice it. The 600B would get the job done for the price, but if he wants to take a chance with the mail-in rebate for the 750B2, he can do that.
 

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Bronze power supplies are really terrible, I would go with a Gold or Gold 2 100% of the time because of their efficiency, a bronze lasts an average of 3 years, whilst gold ones can last up to 10 years. They also make the PC far cooler. And you don't need an aftermarket cooler for that CPU, or extra case fans for that matter, simply going with a decent case (Like the SPEC-03) which comes with a great pre-build fan system is good enough.


PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Z3gH9W
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Z3gH9W/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($51.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($41.33 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card ($283.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case ($67.41 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $817.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-31 09:08 EDT-0400

As you can see, for 17 dollars more in this build you can get an R9 390, which is CONSIDERABLY better than the 380 because of its 8 gb of VRAM. If you really wanted to go cheaper then you can swap the power supply for an EVGA 600b.


 

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The 80 plus is NOT a quality rating. And quality wise the Evga B2 is better than the G1(cheap capacitors and power is not as stable). Using a 600b with a 390 would be a very unwise descision. The Kindston V300 drives are one if the worst ssds you can buy. The 390 is not faster than the 380 because of the amont of vram. The 390 has a faster gpu based on different achitecture.
 

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1. I wasn't talking about the 80 plus, I was talking about Gold certified, which is an efficiency rating, which in turn is a quality rating.

2. No, the B2 is most certainly NOT better than the G1 (The capacitors are more expensive, hence why the product is more expensive),

3. I never recommended using the 600b I just said it would still work if you wanted to use it.

4. Kingston drives are NOT the worst and are in fact one of the best, you can find several reviews online. Not to mention you could easily switch it out for an SSD of the same price; the point remains the same.

5. 8 gb of Vram gives you a larger frame buffer and is optimized for higher resolutions, I never said that is what made it better, I just included that because it is one of the primary factors.



 

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This is not true at all and you should not be giving this advice. The efficiency rating has precisely 0 to do with the quality of a PSU as well as how long it will last. I would take a B2 over the NEX that you recommended any day of the week. The B2/G2/P2 line is made by Superflower which is the best in the business, NEX is made by FSP, an ok manufacturer but not the quality of Superflower. The NEX is known to have quality issues, and in fact there are many Gold rated PSU's out there that are nearly junk quality.



1. No it isn't at all

2. See my reply above, completely incorrect as well

3. Ok i can agree the 600B is an OK value proposition

4. That particular model is very low end. Kingston makes some good drives, but they also make some bad ones.

5. Vram is used for high resolution textures, right now NOTHING needs anywhere near 8gb of VRAM, nor is that the advantage in performance at all vs the R9 380, its not even a primary factor in the decision because at this point and likely for a while 8gb is useless and makes no difference. it comes down to the chipset of which the R9 390 is better.
 

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So you would rather be wasting money and electricity? Is that also why the NEX is one of the highest rated PSUs out there?

Also notice how I put "Gold 1 or Gold 2", it isn't like I focused on one... I was referring to the Gold Line in general.

 

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The EVGA G2 is not a NEX PSU.

As for wasting electricity, unless you live somewhere where you run off a generator, AND you are running your computer at full blast 24/7 the difference in electric bills is about $3 a year. As well, that difference has NO relation to the QUALITY of the PSU.

If you want to get down to brass tacks, the NEX isn't bad, in fact:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&file=print&reid=442

8.5 pretty good there, except

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=393

The 750B2 gets a 9, and not only that read the commentary difference, its pretty big.

I'm assuming you are basing your rating on amazon and newegg reviews. You'd do a bit better to reference reviews by actual experts.
 

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If it's one of the most highly rated PSU's out there (which I can't seem to find much evidence that it is) why is it ranked so poorly on the Toms Hardware PSU Tier Charts? Gold, Platinum, Titanium etc are literally just efficiency ratings. They do not speak at all for the overall quality of a power supply. I'd much sooner take a B2 than a gold rated NEX unit
 

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If you're just going off user reviews that isn't any real evidence. Those same reviews also say that CX series power supply's are very good (which they aren't) The PSU Tier List actually looks at thorough reviews of the power supply in question and is a much better thing to base an argument on (JonnyGURU comes to mind)
 

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Well so far you have provided NO evidence to back up your claims other than one website. Are you telling me that those 122 people who reviewed the NEX are just plain lying?

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/evga-nex750-supernova-psu-gold-review,2.html

Please avoid trying to demote my recommendations and claims with no real evidence, it doesn't make you look smart sir.

 

Rogue Leader

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Again, because you can't seem to understand something the entire rest of this site's braintrust does. Power efficiency is not a measure of quality.

Secondly Jonnyguru is one of THE MOST respected names in PSU testing. Its all the evidence i need, vs the opinions of random people on the internet. As mentioned other known problem PSU's have good ratings by the masses, only to end up here continually with problems.

No they weren't lying they just don't know any better, they plug it in, it works, wow its great. Like you, making a comment as ridiculous as a Bronze PSU will only last 3 years (BTW EVGA warranties the B2 with a 5 year warranty, as does Seasonic on their Bronze PSU's.... there goes that "theory")

I will downvote you when you post things that are incorrect which you continue to do and insist that you are right. I have plenty of evidence that I have presented, and I have the backing of other knowledgeable users of this site including a moderator.

You can continue this argument if you would like, however there is no smoking gun, nor silver bullet to prove you are right.
 

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I do not need to continue this argument because you don't have an argument to begin with. And I will downvote you when you post things that are incorrect and insist that you are right, like I said I have also provided plenty of evidence that I have presented, and have the backing of other knowledgeable users of pcpartpicker.com. And just because someone is a higher status does not make them correct.

And I got the 3 year thing from somebody earlier back who linked me to this post elsewhere.