old hdd, new build.

gingertrollzuk · Jun 4, 2016

hi, i really need to know the answer to this question. so i am currently using a lenovo h50 prebuilt with a upgraded graphics card. iam going to be upgrading the mobo, case, ram and install a ssd. i want to use 2 components from this system. hdd and cpu. what would i do when coming to boot up my computer once the upgrade is complete? thank you P.S i need the answer asap.

Colif · Jun 4, 2016

So did the windows that is on HDD now come with the pre built system? There is a pretty definite chance you can't use it in your new pc. Windows matches itself to motherboards and yours is matched to current pc. And even if you could, the amount of changes made when changing Motherboard is enough to make a fresh install the sanest answer.

You need to buy a new copy of windows and smart idea is buy a retail copy as you can move that later on if you want to, its not matched to a motherboard

I assume the plan is to use SSD as boot drive as you be mad not to. So plan would be to make entire new pc out of parts but put windows on the SSD before installing the hdd, as if you use Win 10 it will see the old hdd and recognise windows on it and put boot partition on it, and prevent you from using the hdd for something else later on as if you removed hdd the ssd wouldn't boot... so only way out is don't install hdd until SSD has windows on it.

gingertrollzuk · Jun 4, 2016

Colif :

So did the windows that is on HDD now come with the pre built system? There is a pretty definite chance you can't use it in your new pc. Windows matches itself to motherboards and yours is matched to current pc. And even if you could, the amount of changes made when changing Motherboard is enough to make a fresh install the sanest answer.

You need to buy a new copy of windows and smart idea is buy a retail copy as you can move that later on if you want to, its not matched to a motherboard

I assume the plan is to use SSD as boot drive as you be mad not to. So plan would be to make entire new pc out of parts but put windows on the SSD before installing the hdd, as if you use Win 10 it will see the old hdd and recognise windows on it and put boot partition on it, and prevent you from using the hdd for something else later on as if you removed hdd the ssd wouldn't boot... so only way out is don't install hdd until SSD has windows on it.

gingertrollzuk · Jun 4, 2016

sorry xD
THANK YOU SO WHEN I COME TO DO THE BUILD, SHALL I PLUG SSD IN FIRST, INSTALL WINDOWS, THE PLUG HDD WITH ALL MY PROGRAMS ON IT? AND WHAT ABOUT OLD DRIVERS ON HDD?

USAFRet · Jun 4, 2016

gingertrollzuk :

The programs that currently exist on your HDD are null and void. The new OS will know nothing about them.
You'll need to reinstall them.
Same with drivers.

Colif · Jun 4, 2016

your ssd won't recognise programs on hdd, you will need to reinstall them again. If you have steam libraries, you can reinstall steam on ssd and point it at the old libraries to avoid downloading them again. Can do same thing for Origin I believe.

At some stage you will want to delete windows off the old hdd as it can cause conflicts with the new one. The way the new bios boots is it looks at all drives attached and looks for a file name, and if you have 2 win 10 hdd attached, they both have that file.

all the drivers on hdd can stay there as if you booting off the ssd they won't be running anyway

gingertrollzuk · Jun 12, 2016

so how do i uninstall old drivers and windows or is the driver ok?

Colif · Jun 12, 2016

You don't need to remove anything, it will be deleted when you fresh install win 10 on the new PC.

All you need to do is make sure the win 10 USB/DVD is first in boot order of bios, ssd second (leave hdd out until win 10 installed on ssd) and then follow this: http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/1950-windows-10-clean-install.html

The old drivers wouldn't be any help as they matched the old hardware you replaced. win 10 will grab a pack of drivers that match your hardware after win 10 installed but its always an idea to see if there are newer drivers on motherboard site.

gingertrollzuk · Jun 12, 2016

ok thanks for the help

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gingertrollzuk · Jun 15, 2016

so i wont need to uninstall anything? if i do how do i do it? or could i take my new build to like currys/pc world and they can do it for me?

USAFRet · Jun 15, 2016

gingertrollzuk :

Do not trust the clowns at Currys to do this.

gingertrollzuk · Jun 15, 2016

i cant do it

gingertrollzuk · Jun 15, 2016

really random but do u know any compaines tah tcould do it?

USAFRet · Jun 15, 2016

gingertrollzuk :

As you are an ocean away from me, no.

But installing the OS is not difficult.
Are we starting with a whole new install and license? What media did you buy...DVD or USB?

Colif · Jun 16, 2016

If you making a new PC and just the concept of installing win 10 again is too hard, I would pay someone to make the entire PC for you just to avoid any mistakes you may make by not knowing any better.

Find a shop that makes PC, not just one that sells them. They more likely to not rip you off. Even better to find one that lets you custom choose the parts in PC and then watch reviews and read articles about each part to know its worth getting. My last three PC have been like that, they last a lot longer if you careful and get right parts. Buying cheap parts just means you replace them faster

Installing win 10 seems hard until you do it a few times and think, hang on.. that is easy, and I was going to pay someone to do that? These days with youtube videos that can show you how to do almost anything and tutorials like this: http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/1950-windows-10-clean-install.html there is no excuse to not at least try, and if you mess up installing software, then ask for help. (Notice I said software, making hardware and messing up can be expensive)

gingertrollzuk · Jun 24, 2016

are you from the uk?

gingertrollzuk · Jun 24, 2016

i want to do a fresh install of windows 10 pro and yes usb boot

gingertrollzuk · Jun 24, 2016

new parts im getting
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-Z97S-Sli-Krait-Motherboard/dp/B00OIKLODK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466758590&sr=8-1&keywords=msi+krait+z97

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HyperX-FURY-16-Memory-Module/dp/B00J8E8YZC/ref=pd_bxgy_147_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=N082AEHFW7FYTBF4EDCT

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-inch-Solid-State-Drive/dp/B00P736UEU/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1466758929&sr=1-3&keywords=ssd
https://www.amazon.co.uk/NZXT-S340-White-Tower-Case/dp/B00NZI69JU/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1466758645&sr=1-2&keywords=s340

https://www.amazon.co.uk/NZXT-X41-140mm-Kraken-Cooler/dp/B00MA5V72I/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1466758733&sr=1-1&keywords=nzxt+x41

Colif · Jun 24, 2016

looks like a nice PC

gingertrollzuk :

I assume you asking USAFRet which is funny considering he Has USA in name. I guess I shouldn't assume anything but its a big hint. I live in Australia so we three can't be much further away from each other...

Installing win 10 is really easy, if you can put PC together and get it working then the software part is simple

All you need to do is make sure the win 10 USB/DVD is first in boot order of bios, ssd second (leave hdd out until win 10 installed on ssd) and then follow this: http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/1950-windows-10-clean-install.html

data on your hard drive will still work but as we said, all your programs will need to be reinstalled. Steam folders can be reused if you have one on the hdd - no need to download all games again.

gingertrollzuk · Jun 24, 2016

ok so do i need to uninstall any old motherboard drivers? btw ive changed the parts now.

Colif · Jun 25, 2016

If you are putting win 10 on the HDD again, then the drivers won't be on there to be removed.

Ask me here as I don't use PM very often

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