Odd repeating pattern of performance drops in games

Feininger

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For a very long time ive been upgrading parts in my computer one by one, most recently my CPU from an AMD 8320 to an 8350. However, I've had a longstanding problem with FPS fluctuations while gaming. I originally assumed it was a GPU related issue, but when I upgraded from an R9 270 to an R9 390 the problem remained, so I then assumed CPU, yet even after the upgrade the problem persists and Im now back to thinking its a GPU related, but at this point who knows. In-Game my FPS will start off wonderfully, depending on the game around 100-120. But after 20-30 seconds, maybe longer depending on the game, it will drop down to 20-30 for about 15-20 seconds before returning. The pattern is very odd in how perfect it is. It has nothing to do with whatever is happening in the game and will happen even in very small load situations. I've kept a keen eye on Core-temp and my GPU Tweak monitor.

I've discovered that my GPU Clock is lowering during these FPS drops, but why the clock speed is lowering so rhythmicly is beyond me. Here's a picture of the graph after a session of Overwatch, the end spike is me closing the game.
http://imgur.com/gallery/LBEkgmS/new

I've also noticed that in a few games, particularly in games that are slightly more difficult to run, like Overwatch (sorta), my CPU load will rise to 95-100% during the spikes, then drop back down to ~60% after the spike. I thought this was due to temperature seeming as I just installed my 8350, but after re-doing my thermal compound temps are still high, but significantly lower. I idle at around 40 and during Overwatch specifically I fluctuate between 60-70. I realize this is high but I'm not sure if it is the real root of the problem. Oddly enough as well, this problem has actually gotten worse after the installation of my new CPU. My high times are much higher, giving me FPS anywhere from 120-150. But my Low times (spikes) are much lower and more often, giving me only 10-20 FPS.

Sorry for such a long read. I'm sick of thinking i've pinpointed what i need to do for this problem and failing everytime, if any additional information is needed I will gladly provide it to the best of my ability. This is my first post and I'm not familiar with the process yet.

Extra: I've just been browsing the forums on problems similar, some people say it could be a RAM issue, and after installing my CPU I did remove and replace my RAM sticks just for dusting purposes, I was greeted with a BSOD with a RAM related issue that i can't remember, something about pagefile, but after taking out my RAM and reinserting it, it never happened again. Perhaps my problem could be Hard-Drive or RAM related.
 
Solution
I unselected the solution for you. You need to cool the VRM on that motherboard; otherwise it has to throttle the CPU to protect itself. Fortunately a liquid cooler leaves a lot of space to install a fan to cool the VRM. What revision is your motherboard, 1.0 or 2.x?

A good solution can be seen towards the end of this thread (a better motherboard, but the VRM was getting too hot): http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/755735-cpu-cooling-that-doesn-t-block-1st-PCI-E-slot-on-ASUS-Crosshair-V-Formula-Z I'd add a fan to check if it solves the throttling issue.
Tell us your motherboard,the most probable explanation would be that the board's VRMs are overheating throttling your CPU speed,since the 8350 runs faster and hotter the symptoms are even stronger.
You say you keep an eye on core temps,keep an eye on CPU core frequency.
 

Feininger

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My CPU cooler is an old cooler master liquid cooler, it came pre-built into my computer and is one of the few things I haven't upgraded yet. I tried finding my old order to figure out the exact name but it's lost. My apologies.
 

Feininger

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Best Solution was an accident, on a mobile. Sorry. My motherboard is a GIGABYTE 970A-DS3P. Ill be checking CPU Frequencies shortly when I can get on my desktop.
 
I unselected the solution for you. You need to cool the VRM on that motherboard; otherwise it has to throttle the CPU to protect itself. Fortunately a liquid cooler leaves a lot of space to install a fan to cool the VRM. What revision is your motherboard, 1.0 or 2.x?

A good solution can be seen towards the end of this thread (a better motherboard, but the VRM was getting too hot): http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/755735-cpu-cooling-that-doesn-t-block-1st-PCI-E-slot-on-ASUS-Crosshair-V-Formula-Z I'd add a fan to check if it solves the throttling issue.
 
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Feininger

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Thank you so much. My motherboard is a 1.0. Ill look into a cooling solution for VRM. What programs if any could i use to monitor the temp of my VRM?
 

Feininger

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So I've opened up my case and propped up a USB Fan pointing at my VRM, and its working. My thermal margins are staying well above 20c and my Loads are staying low. Clearly, having my case open with a fan pointing into it is a temporary solution and Ill set up something better soon. But for now I'll be testing with other higher load games and if anything goes wrong I'll post it here.