When should I prefer a Titan X over GTX 1080

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shivam02

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Hello guys,

I wanted to ask why one should buy a titan x over a GTX 1080 since it is so much more expensive.
What does a titan x offers that a 1080 doesn't.
I also read somewhere that geforce cards have a some kind of driver limitation which limits them to be used as a workstation card. Is that true?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Darkbreeze

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There are some applications that may require a specific workstation card, and in fact some that require application specific drivers regardless of the card model. That doesn't change the fact that a great many users have terrific success using GeForce cards for professional workstation usage. Your best bet is to determine what specific applications you'll be using and target the available information as it relates to those specific applications, not to "workstations" in general. Too broad a consideration.

For broadly compatible workstation use, GeForce cards work fine. For some specific high end applications, a specific card or range of cards along with application specific drivers may be necessary and without knowing what those specifics are, it's impossible to adequately advise you on this subject.
 
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about three weeks ago, if you didn't know the gtx 1080 or 1070 were coming out. Nut hey, Maybe I can get someone talking about some knowledge I came across. Now I might be getting mixed up here But I am sure I have read in cg magazine or on their website that the Titan was the only consumer grade card that had the support for 3D applications such as Maya, Max, Modo other than quadro. I am pretty sure on that but not positive, as I do not have one. Even if the newer cards benchmark higher in 2D they will never act the same in that software as a quadro would or in my theory the Titan as well. That is fact, I had 2 quadro 600's in my system. Serious crap in benchmark land. They still felt way more secure than the gtx 970 that I have now, although I am by no means complaining. It is just that when you spend your whole day on the computer you can feel the energy through your hands and arm, the same way you can feel the engine when you push your foot down on the gas pedal of your car. Better yet, the pressure of the brake system when you stomp on the brakes and nothing compares to a quadro in 3d land. At least working, definitely not rendering, gtx has that beat. If i am right then if you are a 2d/3d professional then Titan over 1080. I myself would still get the gtx 1080. :)
 
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The Titan is no more a workstation card than any other GeForce card.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwje9-nIpaDNAhULVlIKHfCjBgsQFggeMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tomshardware.co.uk%2Fgeforce-gtx-titan-opencl-cuda-workstation%2Creview-32670-23.html&usg=AFQjCNFjA72avqL8WIO_Jaqye4ijPGx6dQ&sig2=hCRXC_B1AkLXK2CVANhHaw

Other cards, like the GTX 980 etc., perform openGL, openCL, CUDA and other 3D tasks. I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that only the Titan or a workstation card can do that kind of work, but I think it's inaccurate.



GTX 980 Technology Support:
Yes (4-way)NVIDIA SLI® Ready
YesNVIDIA G-Sync™-Ready
YesNVIDIA GameStream™-Ready
YesGeForce ShadowPlay™
2.0NVIDIA GPU Boost™
YesDynamic Super Resolution
YesMFAA
YesNVIDIA GameWorks™
12 API with Feature Level 12_1Microsoft DirectX
4.4OpenGL
YesCUDA
PCI Express 3.0 Bus Support
Windows 8 & 8.1, Windows 7, Windows Vista, Linux, FreeBSD x86


And that's just one, last gen card. Newer cards should support even more and at a better performance to cost ratio. Driver support for specific applications is the only reason I see for a workstation card unless I'm off my rocker. My understanding is that it's not the technology support that GeForce and AMD gaming cards lack, it's driver support for specific applications and that is a shortcoming of those application developers, not the cards themselves. I'm sure there are some limitations, I'm just not sure what they are.
 
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So to sum up
New geforce cards lacks nothing in terms of technology. Nvidia is deliberately holding them back by not providing the appropriate drivers for those 3d softwares so that there overpriced "workstation" cards sell.
 
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It has never changed really. Get workstation cards for opengl or mission critical. One of the reasons they cost more because there is more driver support among the hardware changes. But nothing beats compute/price of gaming cards and they can still work in those software just fine.

But I thought this thread wasn't even about quadro so why were they mentioned? Both titan and 1080 are geforce and the 1080 is better.
 
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@k1114, my thoughts exactly. The question was about those two cards, so the issue was rather obfuscated by Dreznon although I THINK he was trying to make what he thought was a valid point. It just wasn't though.

And of course, openGL IS supported on the GTX 1080 and the Titan X/Z. I don't know that a workstation card does or does not work better with openGL, as the 1080 supports the latest version of it, but I do know that many applications work a lot better with drivers from the specific application developer and that many of them don't provide compatible drivers for GeForce cards. That does not mean though, as we've said, that those applications won't run on standard drivers in most cases.
 
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I mentioned them because of the the driver support in 3D program and I could of swore I read somewhere that the Titan had the support for both quadro drivers or geforce drivers. If this is true then the Titan would be a better buy. I was critically thinking on when a consumer should prefer a titan x than a gtx 1080. I myself would get the 1080. If I had the money.
 
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honestly I heard others including my self compared the gtx 1080 over a titan x and the titan x still holds the lead as being the most powerful card , all things considered gigs of vram etc, considering amount of vram of the titan x has 12 and the gtx 1080 only has 8 but in reality NVidia only stated that the gtx 1080 beats the gtx titan x only in vr not dx mode
 
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k1 u can't go by that ,,,, that's only 1 I compared them both I own both , even bought a msi after market 1080 twin frozr 4 1080 , it's the fastest video card out there besides the titan x , can't even beat the gtx 1080 hybrid but the gtx titan x still holds the frame rates by 10 %
 
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even though in gta 5 I can't get a decent frame rates in 4k resolution but still isn't as powerful as the hype was , I can't run tomb raider that was released in 2013 without being sluggish and being choppy , as to others I've talked to you will have to sli the 1080s for 4k you should go 3rd party reviewers not those that are sponsored by NVidia or amd as I found out later , and knew a guy personally infact quite a few that are in the computer business that been there for yrs and seen how the cards are , all i'm saying you can't believe the hype, the hype was all blown out of proportion , if anyone seen NVidia's convention in Austin tx it's on youtube jen haung said it's faster than the titan x in vr mode , not in direct x mode
 
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No. Just because you're having issues with your card, if you have one, doesn't mean that it's not either simply a faulty card or driver issue. Operating system condition could be a factor as well. Until you've tested using a clean OS with a clean driver install in lab conditions, you are not qualified to make any assumptions at all. These independent testing sites have done that. Their results stand. Yours, not so much. Sorry, that's the way it is.

I highly doubt ALL of these testing sites are in some kind of group conspiracy to mislead consumers to the benefit of Nvidia. Put the tin foil hats away. :)
 
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I bought a 1070 and my stock performance is inline with the benchmarks. you would have to be using a program that bottle necks the 1080 at the vram to see it get beaten by a titian x. Which Can happen but not in any normal Gaming use that I have seen.
 
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For over 20 years I've seen one person after another say that the new "X" card sucked compared to something else, already an established, older architecture. In EVERY case it was usually a configuration problem, a faulty component or poor driver condition because they either had a problematic driver version installed, or the wrong driver version installed or the driver was corrupted due to previous installations.

The test sites and benchmarks are not wrong. Any argument contrary to that is simply ignorance or unwillingness to understand the facts.
 
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