Is the AMD "M" (Graphics Processor Unit) Series upgradable?

JoeRaptor · Jun 10, 2016

Just seriously want to know.

EDIT: The "M" series is alternately known as ATI Mobility Radeon.

k1114 · Jun 10, 2016

There are only a very few rare laptops with mxm slots to upgrade and even then, it's not a simple task vs desktop.

TechyInAZ · Jun 10, 2016

I don't think there are right now. You'll have to wait for the r9 4xxm notebooks to come out for that to happen.

hapsoro · Jun 11, 2016

you cannot upgrade the GPU 'cause it's soldered on the board

JoeRaptor · Jun 11, 2016

TechyInAZ :

No it's not that the motherboard is mxm, it's that the same motherboard model of my laptop has multiple GPUS for its product line.
So I was wondering what was the max GPU I could upgrade to. If I could. Like there's one model that has AMD 6430m, other 7470m and then 7570m. I know my motherboard can take those but. Are there anymore I can upgrade to? That;s my question. Like soldering.

k1114 · Jun 11, 2016

You aren't soldering anything if you have to ask if you can even change gpus. Look up the mobos and see if it's the same shape. They may even use different mobos in the same series so you can't even change it.

JoeRaptor · Jun 12, 2016

k1114 :

Ok, so um, I looked up both of the motherboards. Here are some pictures from Ebay.

Here is one motherboard. There looks like there one square bga spot with small holes thats possibly missing something, like a GPU I figured..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Pavilion-DM4-3000-Series-Intel-Motherboard-Main-Board-669085-001-WORKS-/401108150694

Heres another of the same motherboard but, this time there is an amd GPU soldered onto the motherboard, filling in the empty.BGA spot.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/For-HP-Pavilion-DM4-DM4-3000-series-Laptop-Motherboard-669084-001-Intel-CPU-100-/252369360830?hash=item3ac262d7be

These don't have the same item number but do have the same motherboard number which is 48.4QC05.011

But it's not just that there are multiple models of the same laptop I have having greater and greater AMD gpus for its product line.

The motherboard I have is the one with no gpu soldered into the empty bga spot.

maxwellmelon · Jun 12, 2016

yes the first pic is missing an built in video card on the motherboard.

No you cannot put on it.
the second one has a video card built into the motherboard

I actually have a motherboard like the second one. the video card acted like a dedicated video card with and even has its own memory the two smaller blank areas on the first pick. it actually could run cross fire with the internal amd gpu or you could disable the internal amd gpu and gain extra system ram and just run the dedicated card. but it was nothing you could upgrade or add and remove

k1114 · Jun 12, 2016

If yours has none, you may have to buy the heatsink too. They may use a different power brick. Find out all that stuff then go ahead and try if you really want. Seems like it's a waste of time and money. There's more people wanting to try an egpu than this.

JoeRaptor · Jun 12, 2016

maxwellmelon :

I'm totally familiar with the to video card being soldered onto the motherboard and everything, I want to solder a gpu onto it though. I see the motherboard part number is the same. But have different part numbers.

k1114 · Jun 12, 2016

Forget about soldering. You won't find the gpu and vram by itself and you don't have the equipment nor skills to do so. Changing out the mobo is the only way.

JoeRaptor · Jun 12, 2016

k1114 :

I am glad to say, I already have found the individual gpu and vram chip individually. I have cousin that is like OP with soldering. Thank you so much for all fo your help!!!!!
Though, the 7470m I have is PCI Express 2.1 x 16 interface. Could I amp it to a chip with a PCI Express 3.0x 16 interface. like Idk 8970m or somrthing?

k1114 · Jun 12, 2016

Did you talk to him so know he can do it? The gpu is too weak to even care about pcie version.

JoeRaptor · Jun 12, 2016

k1114 :

Too weak??? I thought it was pretty tight since the 8970m had 4GB of VRAM.

Also, I haven't talked to him yet but, I'm going to possibly sometime after schools over lol.

But seriously, will I be bottleneck if I upgrade to 8970m??

JoeRaptor · Jun 12, 2016

k1114 :

Would I be bottle-necked if I solder a 8970m to my motherboard???
Also, does it matter what PCI Express I have for my motherboard??????

k1114 · Jun 12, 2016

Is 8970m even the same socket? It's a different architecture, should be bigger and different pins too since it's higher end. The mobo probably won't even be compatible or even be wired to power 100w to it. You can't just solder a gpu and expect it to work. There's a whole list of reasons why all this is just dream.

JoeRaptor · Jun 12, 2016

k1114 :

PCI Express 3.0x16 is a socket right is a socket right??

k1114 · Jun 12, 2016

No that is a desktop slot and also referred to for bandwidth since an onboard dgpu does have 16 lanes of pcie. Soldered sockets are bga and some numbers, or they may have some other codename. Good luck finding that info. I'm wondering if the gpu and vram you found would even fit if you didn't know that.

JoeRaptor · Jun 12, 2016

k1114 :

Thank you so much. But here is where my problem still lies. The motherboard models go from AMD Radeon 6430m all the way up AMD Radeon 7570m.. All I truly wish to find out is what is my BGA Socket can take up to. I have an hp dm4 3000

maxwellmelon · Jun 13, 2016

JoeRaptor :

there is more to it then just the three chips, all the support components have to match the gpu. your talking all the little resistors, capacatiors ect. you cannot even replace it with the same chip and unless you have some really good professional equipment (if you did you could afford a lot better laptop to began with) your just going to break something and fail. don't waste your time and money just save up to buy something good.

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