asus m5a97 r2.0 getting too hot with fx-8350?

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So I have had this build for a couple of years now and i am getting some problems. when playing a game like Battlefield 4 the two heat sinks next to the CPU socket get extremely hot. after gaming for about an hour my PC shuts down with no warning and when i feel the little heat sinks on the motherboard they are almost too hot to touch.(especially the high one underneath the CPU.) when i take of the side panel i can play for a couple of hours more but for example GTA5 crashes after just 10 minutes of playing.

i was thinking because i have a water cooled CPU the airflow was not good enough so i put an extra fan above the CPU to get more airflow but it did not really help. i read some posts about the Asus m5a97 r2.0 not handling the FX processors very well so is this why it is getting so hot? i set the CPU preset in the BIOS to power saving but it did not help.

it could also be the power supply? i have an AMD sapphire r9 290 tri-x GPU and i heard they are not very power sufficient.

i am now thinking of buying a new motherboard if its the right thing to do. (suggestions for a motherboard are appreciated) if it is the best thing to do do you have some suggestions? i don`t have a lot of money so i hope that just changing the motherboard will fix it. or does my sharkoon t28 not have a good airflow?

if someone can please tell me how to add a picture that could help explain what heatsinks are getting too hot.

(sorry for bad English)

PC specs:
Asus m5a97 r2.0
AMD FX-8350
Cooler Master Seidon 120V
8GB vengeance RAM + 4GB corsair RAM
AMD sapphire r9 290 tri-x
sharkoon WPM700 bronze
sharkoon t28
1tb hdd
 
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I wouldn't. Please consider something like the Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0.

Here is a list of my favorite motherboards for the FX series: http://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/asrock-motherboard-fatal1ty990fxprofessional,asus-motherboard-m5a99fxpror20,gigabyte-motherboard-ga990fxaud7/
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Your setup is very similar to my old setup, and yes, you're right in that that motherboard doesn't handle the FX series all that well. I would recommend getting the Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 motherboard. It has superior power delivery systems which run cooler under load.

Also, I'm not too sure about the quality of your power supply. Please consider purchasing one from the Corsair RMx lineup, the EVGA SuperNova G2/P2/T2 lineup, or the Cooler Master V series lineup.
 
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thank you for your reply, i was thinking of buying that motherboard because i saw other people talk about it too so i will definitely buy it, i will look into the power supply later, how much watt do you recommend for my build?
 
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I have the same problem! Very hot with 8350. I don`t know what to do( System extremely shutdown after 10-30 minutes of 3d gaming! Power supply Thermaltake 750W 80/20 Bronze. Any BIOS defauls do not help. Some people says the problem solved by 1) "Core C6 State - Disabled" 2) By using RAM 1600 (1866 - make system very hot). First variant works, but not solve broblem finally. System more stable, but overheeting in hard 3D games persists. Second - not tested by me. Any ideas?
 
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I do have experience that shows that slowing RAM to 1600MHz reduces strain on the CPU memory controller, and may help lower temperatures. Also, please download AIDA64 extreme trial version and run the system stability test, found in the Tools menu on the Menu Bar. Select CPU, FPU, Cache, System Memory, GPU. Before pressing to start the test, navigate to the Statistics tab and take a screenshot of the 3.3v, 5v, 12v and CPU core voltage. Begin the test, take a screenshot every thirty seconds for ten minutes, post results. Also, please stretch the window to be tall enough to fit all statistics in a single screenshot.
 
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Optimized defaults - show Win welcome screen and turn off. So, all settings manual. AmdTurbo, C1,C6 and so on - OFF.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4LV7-hAK45vTWh0MC1RLTZfeDg
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4LV7-hAK45vVGQwMTlEZ0l0N3M
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4LV7-hAK45vVXNKMFk2bnlqaGM
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4LV7-hAK45vQlBkamlwNDJETDg
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4LV7-hAK45vbXBGRUdMeXVscjA
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4LV7-hAK45vZVBab0JXdkpFclE
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4LV7-hAK45vRFAxdnlGanY5SU0
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4LV7-hAK45vX3BOUG5CVDlsMEE
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4LV7-hAK45vYk8zRTJDcEZCRWs
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4LV7-hAK45vRElyWlM0OGhNaG8
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4LV7-hAK45vcGJJak5KM0xUcG8
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4LV7-hAK45vVm9hUGJPN2hHdm8
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4LV7-hAK45vRHBWaUwxVXF1Mms
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4LV7-hAK45vN1BfUWpZUWVQckU
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4LV7-hAK45vLUk5WWZpcFpkSDQ
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4LV7-hAK45vMlQybGFCc2pqc28

And it seems it could be the PSU problem:
http://www.overclockers.com/thermaltake-smart-730-power-supply-review/
"Worse though is shutting down at the maximum 12 V load (672 W) when hot. I’d much prefer that it shut down rather than run in dangerous territory, but doing what the label says would be better. At cooler temperatures it does that load just fine. I did some additional testing and found that the line was crossed at ~30 °C intake air. Below that point it could put out the 12 V the label says it can, above that it shuts down. If I decreased the load to 624 W, it ran happily. This can’t really be taken as anything but a failure however, if it cannot do 672 W at 40 °C the label should not say it can".

FX8350
M5A97 R2.0 2603 BIOS
2x4GB Kingston HyperX Fury 1866Mhz 10-11-10-28 (downgrad to 1600 9-9-9-27 1.5v)
ATI Radeon HD5770 512Mb (used NVidia GTX6601Gb - the same problems, system works only in manual settings)
SSD Plextor M6Pro
1Tb Seagate
Cooler - Scythe Ninja 3 Rev. B with 2 Fans
Additional CPU fan set to blow on NB from outside.



 
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actually I wouldn't disable "C1,C6 and so on" this lowers the cpu power load on the motheraboard power regulators. disabling lower power states will mean more power draw which will cause higher load and higher temps of the voltage regulators. disabling turbo boost will lower power usage but disabling the c states will cause cpu to remain in higher power draw mode.
 
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MB works unstable with C states or optimised defauls - windows welcome screen, then - exactly or a bit later - power off. And then It`s not starting untill I fully power off system by pressing switch on power supply and wait about 5-10 seconds. That was the reason I disable it. And system works stable. But I can`t understand why it not works with any defaults or works unstable with auto power mods. And very hot NB,SB in ANY (and in defaults, when it starts and works sometimes) mods.


 
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This is a problem I see a lot on that motherboard... Power delivery to your Northbridge is unstable. This is likely not a power supply problem, but rather just poor quality components on the motherboard.

Your motherboard is not optimized for the FX series at all. Please consider a more capable motherboard.
 
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Thank You very much! Will it be possible to use it with FX6300? I`m planing to build second system with FX6300 and use this MB in it.

 
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I wouldn't. Please consider something like the Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0.

Here is a list of my favorite motherboards for the FX series: http://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/asrock-motherboard-fatal1ty990fxprofessional,asus-motherboard-m5a99fxpror20,gigabyte-motherboard-ga990fxaud7/
 
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netraaM

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Sorry for late response,

So i was looking into buying the m5a99fx pro r2.0 when i found that my graphics card would not fit. (my gpu is 305mm) or am i wrong about this?
the ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX and the Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD7 were also recommended by you. are you sure these will be compatible with my system?
 
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GPU length has nothing to do with motherboard compatibility. The only thing it will affect is whether or not it will fit in your case. Many GPUs are longer than motherboards are wide, so their coolers extend past the edge of the board. There is no problem with this.

ASRock is basically a cheaper Asus. The only reason I recommended it is if you couldn't afford one of the other ones. I would recommend the M5A99FX PRO R2.0 for overclocking, as long as you don't intend to go past 5GHz. If you want to go that high, then the UD7 would be your best bet.
 
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CPU 54C
MB 45
info from Asus AI Suite, but it`s not true, because i hardly able to hold my fingers on NB, SB heatsinks. And yesterday was first shutdown in 3D, the same as it was with M5A97..(CPU was not overckloked). Think more fans needed to blow exactly on SB, cause condensor and NB heatsinks receives some flow from case fan.

 
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so i was looking into the power supply and apparently my sharkoon is not the safest.
i think 650W for a psu is enough so i made a list of psu`s i can buy, i dont want to pay too much because i also need to buy the motherboard.

Antec vpf bronze 650W 85$
EVGA supernova 650 gs 85$
EVGA supernova 650 g2 100$
corsair rm650x 113$
cooler master v650 115$

which one do you recommend most? (also looking at the price)
 
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I don`t know. I just ended game, was in game menu, click on Exit to Worktable, and system tirns off. One more issye happened at cold system, it turned off when I tirn on computer and Windows show login screen. So, thats very strange. After it I made Core C1E - OFF in BIOS, and all works 2nd day.

 
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