Sli on only crossfire compatible mobo

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BlueGamer729

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i currently have a single gtx 960 gpu and i want to sli it because there is a good deal on the local shop. The problem is the mobo is only compatible with crossfire. What will happen if i still sli it?

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i5 4460
MSI Z97-G43 (i know an unlocked mobo with locked cpu but the locked mobo cost almost the same where i live)
gtx 960
8gig ram and a seasonic m620

and one thing i m not interested in other card so dont suggest other cards because im gonna build a new pc when 1080 ti comes out. i just want to try out multiple gpus for now.
 
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That might matter if OP was buying a new MoBo and had an interest in CF, but the relevant questions here are:

1. Does the MoBo that the OP has ... the MSI Z97-G43 support x8 in the 2nd slot ? The answer is no.

2. Does the OP have any interest in CF at X8 or X16 ? .. the answer again is no.

Telling me that you can pick up a 500 pound load w/ a 1000 pound hoist is irrelevant when all you have available is a 250 pound hoist.

Here we are talking about, according to the OP a board that supports CF but does not support SLI.

CF only needs x4 to work
SLI needs x8 to work

It therefore unequivocally follows that for the board to support CF, it must have x4 .... for the board to not support SLI, it must be because it doesn't have...
As stated above, the motherboard won't allow the transfer of data between the two cards. If you have more than one screen, you could connect all but the primary (gaming) screen to the second card and lessen the load on the primary card, but you won't be able to connect the cards via SLI, the motherboard won't allow it. In that configuration, they'd both be stand alone cards.

Bottom line, you can't SLI on that board.
 
Your problem is this ... the slots don't know whether its an AMD card or nVidia card in there, the MoBo is not the problem in that respect. The problem is that boards with CF support provide a x4 slot for the 2nd card and to run SLI you need a x8 slot for the 2nd card.
 


Plenty of crossfire boards use x8 slots for the additional cards, some even use x16. IDK where you're getting x8 and x4 from...
 
That might matter if OP was buying a new MoBo and had an interest in CF, but the relevant questions here are:

1. Does the MoBo that the OP has ... the MSI Z97-G43 support x8 in the 2nd slot ? The answer is no.

2. Does the OP have any interest in CF at X8 or X16 ? .. the answer again is no.

Telling me that you can pick up a 500 pound load w/ a 1000 pound hoist is irrelevant when all you have available is a 250 pound hoist.

Here we are talking about, according to the OP a board that supports CF but does not support SLI.

CF only needs x4 to work
SLI needs x8 to work

It therefore unequivocally follows that for the board to support CF, it must have x4 .... for the board to not support SLI, it must be because it doesn't have 8x.

So whether boards exist that do support x8 x16 or x872 in the 2nd slot doesn't matter because:

a) the OP obviously doesn't have one of those boards.
b) the Op has no interest in CF when buying a 960.

http://www.game-debate.com/motherboard/index.php?mot_id=2768&motherboard=MSI%20Z97-G43%20GAMING

SLI - 1 Nvidia GPU
Crossfire - 2 AMD/ATI Crossfire GPUs

 
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It's the motherboard at the end of the day. You can't sli on a xfire board. What was trying to be said is even if the board had 2 x8 or 2 x16 slot it wouldn't matter because the motherboard does not support sli. Also sli 960's gets you the performance of about a 980 which is kinda not that great considering for $379 you can have a 1070 that destroys a 980 really badly. Would be better off selling your 960 and picking up a 1070.
 
The only reason it wouldn't support SLI is because it can't to x8. You wont find a single PCI-E x8 x8 board that doesn't support both SLI and CF.

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2183643/asus-z97-crossfire-performance.html

x8 mode can support Xfire and SLI. X4 mode cant, the bandwidth is too low, and will bottleneck almost any card in the slot.

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/484902-crossfire-vs-sli/

SLI requires two PCIe x16 that can at identical x8 speeds but Crossfire only need one lane at x8 and the other at x4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGN1na3F5do
See 2:40 mark


The 960 is a weak card, two 960s don't even catch a 970.

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BlueGamer729

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thank you for the answers. im just gonna wait for the GTX 1080ti to come out then im gonna build a new pc with i7 and 1080 ti. I just wanted to try sli so i can see it my self why people doesnt recommend multiple gpus.
 


The reason why I don't recommend multiple GPUs is because not all games support SLI/Crossfire. Some games will only use one GPU, even though you may have multiple.

For that reason, I always recommend getting one of the fastest GPU you can afford.
 


Nope... apologies for copying the wrong graphic.

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The GeForce GTX 960 SLI is not just undone by its own shortcomings due to a lack of perfect scaling in some games, but in being a whole $70 costlier than a single GeForce GTX 970. The GTX 960 SLI ends up offering roughly the same average performance as a single GTX 970 across resolutions. You're, hence, much better off choosing a single GTX 970 to GTX 960 SLI; that is, if you plan on buying two of these cards outright. The GTX 970 offers close to 20 percent more performance per dollar than the GTX 960 SLI in 1080p and 1440p.



 


Oft repeated but never, ever documented..... why ? ... cause the numbers don't support it. yes, there are games that don't support SLI, the fact is few care .... a) they are rare and unpopular b) doesn't matter when a game doesn't support SLI get 90 fps w/ a single card.

The average scaling across techpowerup's 19 game test suite was 70%.... for AAA games, the ones everyone plays, it was 90+%.... let's "do the math" with single versus a pair of 970s.

-Tomb Raider goes from 29.8 to 58.7; scaling = 96.98% ... for the same price, you wanna play at 58.7 fps or the 35 fps you get from a 980 ? ... SLI'd 970s are 68% faster

-Far Cry 3 goes from 35.6 to 68.8; scaling = 93.26% ... for the same price, you wanna play at 68.8 fps or the 41 fps you get from a 980 ? ? ... SLI'd 970s are 68% faster

-Crysis 3 goes from 22.5 to 43.3; scaling = 92.44% ... for the same price, you wanna play at 43.3 fps or the sub 30 fps of 28.8 fps you get from a 980 ? ? ... SLI'd 970s are 62% faster

-Dragon Age Inquisition*goes from 33.8 to 66.0; scaling = 95.27% ... for the same price, you wanna play at 66.0 fps or the 38.8 fps you get from a 980 ? ? ... SLI'd 970s are 70% faster

-Metro LL goes from 40.7 to 74.6; scaling =83.29% ... for the same price, you wanna play at 74.6 fps or the 53.2 fps you get from a 980 ? ? ... SLI'd 970s are 40% faster

In the entire 27 game list, the 980 is faster in only 1 game.... All those that played Wolfenstein: New Oder (I don't know anyone) have reason to be disappointed ... no SLI support so playing with in SLI resulted in 56.2 fps, meanwhile the 980 brought a whopping 61.8 for to the table.... is losing 5 fps in one of 19 games really that much of a deal breaker when using twin 970s makes you 60-70% faster in 4 AAA games.

But the real issue is ...

- The 980 leaves you w/ < 60 fps in 14 / 27 games - 52%.
- The twin 970s leaves you w/ < 60 fps in 3 / 27 games - 11%

Again, for the 19 games test suite including the any that did not support SLI has the twin 970s averaging 40% faster than the 980. But let's not forget the two option are the same price....the argument therefore is:

- One doesn't want to go an average of 40% faster in 26 games, because in 1 game, we lose 5 fps.
- In the really demanding games, where fps is low making game play problematic, it's not worth getting 60 - 70% fps improvements because in one game you drop from 62 fps to 56 fps.







 

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Hi i know im a little late but im planning on doing the same thing. Why has none mentioned the installation of additional software. Another thing is im fairly certain ive seen crossfire on sli boards. And their are hybrids that can do both as some of you didnt realise. Like gigabytes 990x.

Heres a link to a quick shortly solved discussion which includes the software (it is literally the first google result if you search the title).

http://www.overclock.net/t/1386309/running-sli-on-a-crossfire-motherboard

I really dont understand why you had to go into to such technical detail. You could just research and say. And 16x will support all under (8x, 4x) if your reffering to pcie. Most crossfire has 16x support and as does sli.
 

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You can crossfire on sli board, but not the order way around.
 
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