I ran a GT 210 on my 250-W PSU, can I run a GT 710 2GB or GT 730 2GB DDR5?

UKS37

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Hi guys,

I have an old Compaq Presario SG3350IL.

SPECS ARE:
Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 (2.4GHz), 3 GB DDR2 RAM, 945GCT-HM (Livermore8) Mother Board,
250-W PSU.

I've been running a Sparkle Nvidia GT 210 on my system with out any problem. But the fan on the GPU stopped working so I removed it, and I want to get a new Graphics Card, and I like the below 2 options.

1) GT 710 2 GB DDR3 http://www.amazon.in/Gigabyte-GV-N7...ie=UTF8&qid=1465717747&sr=8-2&keywords=gt+710

2) GT 730 2GB DDDR5 http://www.amazon.in/ZOTAC-NVIDIA-D...ie=UTF8&qid=1465717821&sr=8-1&keywords=gt+730

The problem is that I don't know whether I will be able to run any one of these on my 250-W PSU.

From what I've read on online sites GT 710 and GT 730 both require less power than GT 210, although on amazon and other sites these all have the same requirement as 300-W PSU.

Please help, which is the best choice without needing to update my PSU. I only want to use this in my Netcafe and only for medium level games for the customers to play like GTA 4, San Andreas, COD Modern Warfare, Black Ops, Crysis 2, Metro 2033, and Etc.

Thanks
 
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This GT740 2GB card is $60ish after rebate:
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/gBQypg/msi-video-card-n7402gd3

Your system without GPU probably doesn't use much more than 100W (I googled and found similar setups with same architecture) if not overclocked.

The GT740 probably doesn't use much more than 40W (TDP is not the same as actual power used), though it's still only get 384 cuda cores vs the GTX750Ti's 640.

This MSI one shouldn't have a 6-pin PCIe connector so it uses less than 75W which probably will work fine (total system power probably won't hit 200W total):
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/jzzv6h/msi-video-card-n750ti2gd5oc

**Once you drop below a $90, GTX750Ti the gaming performance plummets. A card $20 less might get half the...

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Well due to the CPU being old , i think it's logical to buy a whole new system , but anyway the recommended power supply for GT 710 2GB DDR3 is 300W and for the GT 730 2GB GDDR5 it's going a little bit higher 350 watts would be recommended,but that is assuming that you don't have any PCI modules (modem or lan card or wifi adapter)
at the end i think it's better to put the motherboard and CPU upgrade in the priority.
 
some points:

1) Do you have 64-bit Windows?
If not you need that or will be extremely limited in video card memory (a 2GB card would only leave about 1.8GB available for system memory since VRAM gets allocated then some other minor stuff then whatever is left of the 4GB memory map can be used by system memory).

If you have W7 or W8 32-bit or 64-bit you can upgrade to W10 for free (though almost certainly need a CLEAN INSTALL for W10 64bit)

2) PSU:
I'd suggest aiming for a $100, GTX750Ti though you'd want a better power supply. You can likely get by with a $40 model on sale. I normally recommend better ones but for budget that's what you have to do.

A GT710 is complete crap for gaming and the GT730 better but not really that good. Some of the GT730's have 96 cuda cores and some 384. A GTX750ti has 640 but is clocked higher so if we ignore any CPU bottlenecks it's about 2X as good.

The GT710 has 192 cuda cores so the GTX750Ti might get 4X the FPS in some situations.

3) GAMES:
a) GTA4 runs like crap on many systems. I don't recommend it. Maybe something like Saints Row 3 which runs a lot better on my system.

b) COD Modern Warfare probably works okay depending on which one you mean. I have I believe "COD 4 Modern Warfare" from 2007.

c) Half Life 2 is an example of a game that's older, but looks great is fun and runs well. You'll need to carefully do your research.

d) Crysis 2 - not sure about the CPU part, but a GTX750Ti should work well. I could get well over 100FPS on lower settings which still looked great.

e) Metro 2033 - probably similar to Crysis 2 but you'd want to tweak the settings carefully. one of the anti-aliasing settings completely kills frame rate (I think it's AA). It's got a benchmark which is pretty handy though probably not completely accurate.

4) 3GB is problematic for many games, so you should run a "can you run it?" page or google the minimum specs. Skyrim with light modding took 1.75GB for the game, and Windows 10 can drop under 1GB when required so you have just enough for that game.

Metro 2033 claims only 1GB needed which really surprises me, though i suspect that would cause stuttering if you only had that.

*you'd want the REDUX version of that, and maybe get both games though it would be nice to know if they would work well before you buy.

**You can attempt to Google a game on Youtube by listing your CPU name and the game, look for a similar GPU, and then look at his comment listing FPS and low/high settings. they should hopefully list the FPS when not using recording software and maybe give a general comment on game looks and playability (often the videos are overcompressed so useless)
 

UKS37

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Thanks for the reply.
But the recommended power supply for GT 210 is also 300-W, but I was able to run it on my 250-W. So do you think I will be able to run GT 710, since it also has the recommended supply of 300-W?
 


The GT710 uses very little power. It's probably around 20W (update: listed as 19W). again though if you look at my very long comment it's not a great GPU and most or all the games you mention would probably run like crap

It's not meant for gaming. It might be okay for Torchlight or even Diablo 3 but Metro etc would be horrible IMO.
 

UKS37

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Thanks for the reply.

Yes I have a 64-bit OS.
I have 6 PCs in my Net Cafe, 3 are very new. And I don't want to throw out this old one and just want to install a new GPU in the lowest budget possible, which will run on 250-W.

If any of these 2 can be run on 250-W then I'm ready to buy and install and use the system for basic games may be not like the above mentioned ones, instead of buying a new PC for at least another 2 years.

So my dilemma. Thanks.


 

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as i said it's the recommended power but some times GPU needs to go further and it will need more power to do so , however the real power needed for this graphic is 125W but considering other parts and that 3GB DDR2 ram of yours it' recommended to upgrade but if you don't it will not be a problem however it might go a little risky some times. in common they say further proof the system , so that if you wanted to add some PCI module or upgrade the ram or the cpu you wouldn't need to buy a PSU.
 
This GT740 2GB card is $60ish after rebate:
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/gBQypg/msi-video-card-n7402gd3

Your system without GPU probably doesn't use much more than 100W (I googled and found similar setups with same architecture) if not overclocked.

The GT740 probably doesn't use much more than 40W (TDP is not the same as actual power used), though it's still only get 384 cuda cores vs the GTX750Ti's 640.

This MSI one shouldn't have a 6-pin PCIe connector so it uses less than 75W which probably will work fine (total system power probably won't hit 200W total):
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/jzzv6h/msi-video-card-n750ti2gd5oc

**Once you drop below a $90, GTX750Ti the gaming performance plummets. A card $20 less might get half the FPS. That's due to the overhead of manufacturing a card so a much better GPU adds a lot of value for a bit more (that changes when a high-end GPU becomes really expensive).
 
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I have personally tried running a GT 710 2 GB with a 250 W PSU. My PC is an HP Pavilion. It was really a pain. I got Blue Screen every while. It's not that 250 W isn't sufficient, but older PSUs aren't that efficient anyway. It's highly recommended to get a new PSU. If reliability isn't a factor for you, you can get a generic PSU for dirt cheap. Else, Corsair VS450 is a reliable alternative. However, if you're going higher with something like a GT 740 or a GTX 750 Ti, you should probably go for a CX430