Need help upgrading from GT 620 to GTX 1070 - (First time upgrading)

Daxious · Jun 12, 2016

Hello guys/gals!

I had this PC from 2 years ago it is a Aspire - M3985 Prebuilt PC...I know its bad to buy it prebuilt but at that moment i did not know what to do , this time i wanna know whats happening and how to do it, So my idea was to Upgrade from GT620 to GT1070...Honestly just something i can play new games with without lowering my resolutions etc , I know right ? Huge upgrade!
My gaming experience is gonna be better for sure!
I need to know if its all compatible and doable

Budget range: 600-700 Euro's
Preferably used retailer : https://www.afuture.nl/ - I am from Belgium , they are the best apperently
Location : Belgium - Oost vlaanderen
System Usage: Gaming,School stuff,Watching Movies
Are you buying a monitor?:If its really needed i will! (Current monitor: Acer X223W)
Parts to Upgrade: Probably need an upgrade on PSU and GFX? the rest i wanna use not as much money , so bassicly reuse anything i can!
Do you need to buy OS: No
Overclocking: Maybe
Why Are You Upgrading: Im tired of not being able to run games , or forcing myself too mega lower resolutions and graphics

Main specs to notice:
8GB RAM
I5-3450 CPU @ 3.10GHz
64 Bit System
GT 620 GFX CARD
500GB HD (Prebuilt was 1TB HDD but got corrupted and got a guy who replaced it)
300 W PSU

Device Manager pictures:

link if image is not working - https://gyazo.com/9d5b1aee023ca07a8b290e719049d3dd

link if image is not working - https://gyazo.com/08e175d7db6c8b0134bfbc2f32686175

Prebuilt PC Info (specs n all what not on a site)
http://www.acer.com/ac/en/PH/content/model/DT.SJQSP.005

I appreciate any answer , I seriously need this help!
(If theres anything needed to be done , Tests etc post comment and tell me how to do them and i will !)

Math Geek · Jun 12, 2016

a 300w power supply is not going to be good enough for a 1070. 450-500w is the minimum for such a card depending on the model.

you will need a new psu to go with the new card. will have to look over the site you linked to find a decent one at a decent price since i am not familiar with belgium pricing.

you will also need to ensure you can fit one in your case. pics are not easy to tell how big it is. you'll want to measure inside the case from the back where the card will poke through, straight to the front until it hits something. that is how long it can be. the from the motherboard slot out to the side of the case to see how tall the card can be.

then a quick look here http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3047729/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1000-series-megathread-faq-resources.html will show you what models you can fit if you are limited in size.

Daxious · Jun 12, 2016

So theres Corsair VS550 - 550W for 48,80 Euro , Including Shipping and what not
https://www.afuture.nl/productview.php?productID=2429648

Heres how big the case is

Physical Characteristics

Height 379 mm
Width 180 mm
Depth 401.8 mm

technoholic · Jun 12, 2016

GTX 1070 is an overkill for your monitor resolution and your CPU would probably be a bottleneck for that GPU anyways. And if we decide to upgrade your CPU to an unlocked one (3570k) we would need to buy a good motherboard + cpu cooler too. A PSU upgrade is needed too. And all these probably would be over your budget (cause you'd probably need a better monitor to take full advantage of the 1070 too)

Thus, maybe we can do this by considering AMD RX 480 plus a PSU upgrade. This would give you an optimal experience for cheaper but RX480 will probably be around in a month or so

Math Geek · Jun 12, 2016

this is a decent choice for a bit less and a better unit than the corsair one https://www.afuture.nl/productview.php?productID=1056540 antec vp500 for 44.8 euros. has a 6 and 8 pin pcie connector that will run almost all the 1070 models. if you can afford more, then there are better units for more such as this seasonic 520w unit https://www.afuture.nl/productview.php?productID=3596217 it's 58.4 euros. also has a 6 pin and 8 pin pcie connector

Math Geek · Jun 12, 2016

technoholic :

the i5 he has is plenty for a 1070. it's about the same a 980ti which would also be fine with that cpu. no need to go there right now. just a psu to run the card will suffice.

Daxious · Jun 12, 2016

Hmmm Maybe a 1070 is an overkill after all , But how would i be able to run games really smooth ?
Game examples : I wanna play Battlefield 1
Also playing Overwatch , and Triple A games here n there like shadow of mordor and tomb raiders new game etc
it doesnt have to be EPIC ULTRA graphics ; All i want is a smooth 60+ FPS All the time , with maybe High-Medium graphics , if its possible

But i am also thinking about the long run , getting a 1070 would be good for later

Math Geek · Jun 12, 2016

again, no issue with your cpu. it may be the weaker piece in the puzzle but it's not gonna bring the game to a standstill. if you wish do some looking for your cpu paired with a 980 ti and see how it performed. i know it won't be a problem

Daxious · Jun 12, 2016

Math Geek :

So everything else is compatible with a new PSU + GTX 1070 ?

technoholic · Jun 12, 2016

Math Geek :

1070 is around 15% faster than a 980ti and that CPU would hold a GTX980ti back by good. The best GPU i'd recommend would be a GTX 970 for that build. 1070 is an overkill for his build and that'd be a pretty bad investment/wasted potential unless he buys a relatively good monitor too. That's why i recommended rx480 if he can wait. This would save him a lot of cash

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1070/24.html

Math Geek · Jun 12, 2016

Daxious :

yup, you'd be good to go so long as you ensure the card will fit into the case and only uses the pcie connections you have available. the power supplies i linked have a 6pin and 8 pin but there are a couple 1070 models that use 2 x 8 pins so avoid those. again the first link i gave has all the specs for every card including dimensions to ensure you get one that will fit/work with what you have. here it is again http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3047729/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1000-series-megathread-faq-resources.html

Daxious · Jun 12, 2016

technoholic :

Math Geek :

So https://www.afuture.nl/productview.php?productID=3596217 this new PSU
+ One GT 1070 models...Still confused on what to get , afuture.nl has 2 models i think

https://www.afuture.nl/productview.php?productID=5187526 - Evga model
https://www.afuture.nl/productview.php?productID=5187525 - gigabye model

Both founders edition
IL pick wich is smaller i suppose
Do every model have a difference ? is it a bad or good difference ?
help me out

Daxious · Jun 12, 2016

Math Geek :

Daxious :

yup, you'd be good to go so long as you ensure the card will fit into the case and only uses the pcie connections you have available. the power supplies i linked have a 6pin and 8 pin but there are a couple 1070 models that use 2 x 8 pins so avoid those. again the first link i gave has all the specs for every card including dimensions to ensure you get one that will fit/work with what you have. here it is again http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3047729/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1000-series-megathread-faq-resources.html

Also might have found a cheaper retailer , thats actually in Belgium , they are near also , so i could go pick it up myself also 50 euros cheaper
its an MSI founders edition
https://www.codima.be/msi-geforce-gtx-1070-founders-edtion-8gb

and power supply maybe this ?:
https://www.codima.be/ms-tech-v-go-a5-2-520w-atx-power-supply

Math Geek · Jun 12, 2016

all the founder's editions will be the same. they are all made exactly the same even if it has a different brand name on it.

so either one along with the seasonic psu and you'll be set for now and for a future upgrade when you get that far.

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