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Hey,
I have two builds that I would like some input on. One is an AMD fx 8320e with a gpu and the second is an AMD APU.
First build: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/yTkHxY
Second build: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4pWmGf
Will the 4 core difference show a lot? System will not be used for gaming.
Additionally, on the second build the mobo has an onboard HD 7000, is it possible to crossfire this with the built in gpu in the APU? Also, is there going to be a large difference in performance between the fm2+ and the am3?
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There's not a whole lot of low cost options in that area that are of decent quality but maybe something like this:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438028

That one isn't full modular but is the same unit as the G2/P2/T2. This is another high quality unit:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151093
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This is a much better system for a slightly higher price:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-DVS/D3 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($57.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 370 2GB Video Card ($139.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Thermaltake Versa II ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.88 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Other: Linux - Cinnamon ($0.00)
Total: $476.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-13 00:00 EDT-0400

The CPU in gaming beats out the AMD APU that you selected, and while performing on par with thew 8320-E, offers much better future expansion options (such as the Skylake 6500), which will outperform any AMD CPU for that board.
The motherboard will be fine for your system, but if you have any extra budget, I would highly advise purchasing a B150 motherboard for m.2 support and USB 3.1.
I changed the hard drive to a 1TB western digital. While it isn't as fast, you won't have enough storage to store your programs, games, and files on just a 240GB SSD. Plus, you can always add an SSD later without harming your system.
The video card I selected is without a doubt much faster than either of your systems. The R7 370 beats out the APU and will continue to perform well with modern titles at medium settings.
The power supply is much better than the CX series. The Corsair model has been known to fail well below the target voltage and is overall an awful choice to purchase.

While this is more expensive than your two systems, it will without a doubt be much faster than the two builds you made.

Secondly, the APU build you made cannot crossfire with the Nvidia GPU you listed.

Overall you will see better performance now if you choose my system, and better performance in the future.
Best of luck!
 
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Just go for the A10 build. Use a different mobo because you really don't need the 7000 graphics. I don't think that mobo supports dual graphics. I have made a few changes, I changed the mobo, SSD, and the case but that is your choice. I'm not a Intel fanboy but (I use AMD myself,) the Intel platform has more upgradability. And I'm sure you aren't editing or anything like that but the 4 cores isn't needed.
 
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AMD FX is a terrible investment at this point. There's a new AMD platform in a couple of months and even the i3-6100 beats the FX-8320 in most tests. I agree that an i3-6100 build would be a better investment. But don't go cheap on the PSU either - EVGA B series PSUs are not a good purchase.
 
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While I also agree that the EVGA series is in no way a top tier power supply, based off of OP's budget I would say it is an improvement over the CX series.

If OP has the budget, I would recommend this SeaSonic power supply, as it is a great unit featuring high quality components.
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($68.49 @ Newegg Canada)
 
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Thanks for the quick response. Just to clarify, this build will not be used for gaming. Thanks for pointing out a better PSU, I had not heard of the poor reviews of the psu I had chosen. And when I said crossfire I meant if the 7850k built-in gpu could crossfire with the motherboards built-in HD 7000.
 
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I don't believe you can crossfire with the on board graphics. If I may ask, what is the purpose for your system? It will certainly help us devise a system to suit your needs.
 
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Thanks for the suggestion, I wanted to psu to be modular or semi modular as the case doesn't have much room for cable management. Do you have a low wattage (semi)modular recommendation?
 
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The build will be a family/work computer. Office applications, light photo and video editing, heavy browser use and might double as an HTPC.

 
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You don't need a GPU for that, you can run most of those tasks from the onboard graphics and be fine.
 
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To summarize everything, here's what I think will work well for your system:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170M-D3H DDR3 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($94.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: PNY CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($76.58 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Cougar MG100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Fractal Design Integra M 650W 80+ Silver Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.88 @ Amazon Canada)
Other: Linux - Cinnamon ($0.00)
Total: $441.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-13 01:16 EDT-0400

The CPU will be fine for productivity and light editing, so no harm there.
Since you aren't purchasing a GPU, I spent the extra money on the Gigabyte H170 HD3 motherboard. It offers m.2 SSD support, 4 USB 3.0 ports, and a plethora of other features.
The case I changed to the Cougar MG100, which is a great case and offers USB 3.0 on the front. Being a micro-ATX mini tower, the case will be fairly small.
The power supply is by all means overkill, but one of the best for Semi Modular installation. If you aren't gaming, you can choose the EVGA unit, as you will not be maxing out the system at all. Keep in mind the Fractal Design unit is a very high end unit, and will serve you well.

I hope this solves your post, and gives you the best possible system!
Cheers!
 
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There's not a whole lot of low cost options in that area that are of decent quality but maybe something like this:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438028

That one isn't full modular but is the same unit as the G2/P2/T2. This is another high quality unit:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151093
 
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