I7 4770k running at (close to) max clock speed at idle.

MrIrrelevant · Jun 13, 2016

I recently installed a new Cryorig h7 and since them have been monitoring my temps pretty much daily. For the most part everything has been fine but for some reason this morning my CPU is running at almost full clock speed while idle. When I start it up the clock speed is running at its lowest until it seems like its fully booted then it just jumps to almost max.

This wasn't happening last night or any days before either. I haven't changed any BIOS settings or touched my power settings either. I scanned for viruses/malware this morning and got nothing back.

Here is a link to a screenshot of my temp/speeds along with my processes.

For some reason one core seems to always be taking the brunt of the load and SVhost (which leads to my system 32 folder) is always taking up around 12-15% of my cpu which wasn't happening last night.

Any feedback is welcomed.

Ironsounds · Jun 13, 2016

Hello... Thx for the pic... as a "simple test" Power down and dis-connect your internet cable from the computer and re-boot... do you see a change?

MrIrrelevant · Jun 13, 2016

Ironsounds :

I rebooted not connected to the internet and even checked my BIOS to make sure the EIST option was enabled (which it was). Not connected to the internet and svchost no longer was dominating my cpu and my clock speed sat at 800hz pretty much the whole time

Even with the ethernet cable back in my clock speeds are fluctuating based upon what they need (going from 800-3700 ish) depending on need and svchost isn't dominating anymore.

Is there a reason for this? Should I be worried about svchost (I have like 10 of them running right now) or was it just a one time thing.

Ironsounds · Jun 13, 2016

Hello... a lot of svhosts is scary to me and my personal Computer performance/security... And is typical activity from malware/virus... OR any APP with "live-auto updates" allowed to run in the background 24/7. Typically the BAD or Good ones get triggered into the processes due to the internet connection... as our first test showed. B )

Another "simple test" is to try and delete/End task on each of them, as they are running... if they come back right away it is Malware/virus... auto restarting them.

By right clicking on each one, you can look at the properties and see what ID/Process/APP/Location it is running from, and track them down to your HD/SSD locations.

I have NO svhosts running on my WIN7 and i7 3770 while I'm here chatting with you... they are not needed for 'Normal' PC or "internet" connections.

1) Look in the "preferences" of all your APPs/Windows OS, and Shut off all auto-update function of it... how many svhosts went away?

MrIrrelevant · Jun 13, 2016

Ironsounds :

The file location and properties all lead back to the same scvhost in my windows 32 folder. Even the svchost that was running on a lot of cpu was located in the windows 32 folder and hadn't been modified. I'll run a malewarebytes scan over that area and keep an eye on it to see if it starts acting up again.

junkeymonkey · Jun 13, 2016

what not a screen shot of task manager showing things when it running at that 100 as you say cant tell nothing at idle speeds all that in your screen shots looked normal ??

except for all them background programs listed

svchost is a normal needed windows process but click on them and ''go to services'' and see whats running under it

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/what-is-svchost-exe#1TC=windows-7

''was located in the windows 32 folder '' ? that's a lot in there so what one ??

choose a scvhost and click on it and chose go to services and see wat running under each instance of svchost [can be several scvhosts running a ''block'' of services and research each one to see what they do

like on mine one scvhost runs
wwanautoconfiguring and windows firewall and diagnostic policy services and base filtering engine

as one block of services under that one scvhost

Ironsounds · Jun 13, 2016

Hello... I have NO svhosts running on my WIN7 and i7 3770, Right now... while I'm here chatting with you... they are NOT needed for 'Normal' PC or "internet" connections... There is a some APP that is creating/starting the process to Use through your internet connection... whether it is Good or not... or needed or NOT... is Now your Job to investigate. B /

1) Look in the "preferences" of all your APPs/Windows OS, and Shut off all auto-update function of it... how many svhosts went away?

junkeymonkey · Jun 13, 2016

I have NO svhosts running

I bet than windows is not running

Svchost.exe is a process on your computer that hosts, or contains, other individual services that Windows uses to perform various functions. For example, Windows Defender uses a service that is hosted by a svchost.exe process.

There can be multiple instances of svchost.exe running on your computer, with each instance containing different services. One instance of svchost.exe might host a single service for a program, and another instance might host several services related to Windows. You can use Task Manager to view which services are running under each instance of svchost.exe.

so your windows runs wityh out any of its services ??? like being on the internet right now ??

MrIrrelevant · Jun 13, 2016

junkeymonkey :

[http://i.imgur.com/jPQPZaf.png] that was the original screen grab of the the cores running at near max with just one scvhost running at 13% cpu.

As for the svchosts one of them is windows backup, one is windefend, one is running windows firewall, diagnostic/base filtering,

The one that I think was using so much cpu is running network conections, superfetch, distributed link tracking client, desktop window manager session manager, and a couple others. I'm guessing this is the one running my cpu hard from before because its currently running on 200k memory while the one from before was running at 260k.

As for where all these processes originate they've all originated from the exact same ncvhost.exe in my windows 32 folder. There is only one sitting in there and thats where they've all originated from.

Ironsounds · Jun 13, 2016

Hello... Well... I recheck my screen and clicked "all services"... shows 13 Windows svhost Host process for Windows services... typically I have that un-checked for viewing/looking for the bad ones. (smaller List view) will show NON-Windows OS process activity... are there any svhosts there? B /

MrIrrelevant · Jun 13, 2016

Ironsounds :

Without all show all processes checked I don't have any scvhosts. I only figured out the scvhost was there earlier because I was confused how I had 13% cpu usage when no processes were using any... until I checked show all.

Ironsounds · Jun 13, 2016

Hello... So if you were to do a power down and reboot? and just the Windows desktop and task manager viewed
1) what is your idle Cpu usage?
2) what is your ram usage?
3) do you have network activity?
4) processes and thread count?

junkeymonkey · Jun 13, 2016

if you say so I don't believe it one moment that's a part of the os and how it runs all the services and dll's so no way even basic desk top requires some service lol,,,,, like I said if your using the internet tits running that service how else could it work ???

''According to Microsoft: “svchost.exe is a generic host process name for services that run from dynamic-link libraries”. ''

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/what-is-svchostexe-and-why-is-it-running/

what in windows don't call on dll's

Ironsounds · Jun 13, 2016

Hello... Yes... there are "Windows" OS svchosts 'services" and Non-windows svchosts (apps/malware/viruses)... I was trying to focus on the "Non" ones here... and getting the proper list View setting was the confusion... this internet helping is hard... B / without their screen in front of you.

junkeymonkey · Jun 13, 2016

http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/207658-svchost-exe-not-found-task-manager.html

figures this was your issue ??

its easy just as I said and from that howto geek link

click on one of the svchost then go to services se whats highlighted under the services listed go back to the process and svchost then open file location it should be highlighted as well then properties then details

it should be all Microsoft copyrighted most times under ''date modified '' it should be around 2009 or so [windows 7 64 - corresponds with the os release dates or added service pack if you did not get sp1 on the install disk]

now back to services say under that svchost one is called ''sysmain ''

google it and see what it is about and then see its a noemal process

http://servicedefaults.com/7/sysmain/

its under system 32 open it and scroll down the dll's and you will see sysmain.dll check properties again copyrighted Microsoft [this file can be resent due to windows updates mine shows 2015 ] and a app extension of superfetch [safe ] or you can scan it with what ever you have to do so with

'' will show NON-Windows OS process activity... are there any svhosts there? B / ''

from his old screen shot [now removed ??? ] I did see he had a lot of ''junk'' listed as non Microsoft like that charger thing and all no telling what else he installed that's unnecessary and now hes got to weed it all out

K.I.S.S [keep it simple silly]

like something as simple as google chrome look up chrome is a resource hog and see how it can do you running things up like memory or cpu useages

MrIrrelevant · Jun 13, 2016

junkeymonkey :

A lot of the processes running were installed when I first built my PC. For example the charger you mentioned was installed with the MSI drivers from my motherboard.

As for the problem for now it is fine as none of the svchost processes aren't using any of my CPU. I've also ran a rootkit scan and ran a full scan of my pc including my system 32 folders. I'll keep monitoring my cpu usage and clock speeds and if I see svchost filling it up again I'll look into what services it is hosting.

But for now its hard to really pinpoint if any of the svchosts are a problem or if it was a one time thing.

Thank you guys for your gelp.

junkeymonkey · Jun 13, 2016

well with a fresh install I do see superfetch going crazy but it most times pans out once it catches up

I had to turn it off for a week or so then turn it back on

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-performance/high-cpu-usage/0b8023d6-abb6-4cd0-bc3e-fd398c22b8cb

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-performance/high-cpu-usage/0b8023d6-abb6-4cd0-bc3e-fd398c22b8cb

seems if you ''slam'' things in on a new install it get confused ??? [opinion]

maybe all it was it can be ''funny''

also windows update trys to get ''caught up '' and runs things up on a fresheer install I seen that as well

also a program may have a hard time loading up and causeing things to run high like for me AMD's ccc drags around and keep a cpu load on until it stops crying

glad its now all working out -- enjoy

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