Fritchard :
So at the Microsoft E3 conference, the Xbox Slim was announced. Following it was the reveal of the Project Scorpio, a console that is claimed to have heavy 4k gaming capabilities... The video says it has 6tf of GPU, and 8-core CPU, and more... So is this really possible? Could this be a console that competes with the top of line PC's? I am a die hard console gamer on the Xbox One, and recently built a PC with a 970. My initial plan was to do everything on PC now except Call of Duty. With the new 1000's released I sold my new 970. Now I am questioning whether it is even worth getting a new graphics card or going for the console.
What do you guys think? I am no PC wiz, I just know my fair share of information. Could this really be a console that wins the war? Maybe a PC killer? Let me know! Thanks!
Don't consoles always have custom made GPUS from AMD? Not GPUS that the community can buy? I wouldn't think it would be a 480, but that's just my guess... Also I didn't say that the console could win the war of PC all together, I did mention the price. So if I wanted to go build a very powerful PC today, I would have to pay for a graphics card and all the other parts. For the console, it is already done for you, and pretty cheap when you think about it. So if this can handle 4k gaming, for the price range it might be worth it. I am assuming it will be no more that $600.
Also for the 4k bit you talked about, the trailer mentioned that it would be true 4k.
Good god no, there will never "be a console that wins the war".
These will most likely be powered by the RX480, and beat out newer low end gaming rigs mostly due to optimization.
Put it this way; a console has to fit in a certain budget range with every other component squeezed into a small form factor. Given that a $700 graphics card paired with an i7 CPU is achieving around 40fps maxed at 4k in most games, there is no way that a console is going to fit:
A. Enough CPU power as to not bottleneck the graphics.
B. Enough budget headroom and size to even fit a 270mm $700 PCI-E graphics card.
A PC can house the highest end components, and is essentially where all console components come from, give or take the custom OS installed by Microsoft and Sony.
The upcoming price/performance card the RX480 is most likely present in these consoles, due to the high performance (Between 970 and 980) in a very cheap package, estimated at $200.
When you say "Could this really be a console that wins the war?" that's simply not a reality as of yet. Give it another 5 years or so and I'd say 40fps on consoles at native 4k could certainly be possible, but then there is always going to be that budget limitation, and it may be a while before we see this happen, especially given we don't know the performance yields of the smaller processes quite yet.
I can safely tell you 100% that this console generation will be 1080p upscaled to 4k, meaning that it will support play on 4k TVs and playing of 4k content, just upscaled. See here for a definition: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/upscaling-how-does-it-work-and-is-it-worth-it/
Just remember to always keep in mind, that consoles are essentially budgeted boxes made of small form factor PC parts, so it is virtually impossible for them to ever beat PCs, most of the claims will always be VERY specific in terms of wording. Welcome to marketing!