$800 Skylake "Gaming PC(hate to saying that)"

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I will building my own "gaming" PC one day. I don't need a overclock for CPU, and fancy 4K monitor.. I have 24" 1080p 60hz monitor. Most games I will playing are GTA5, Forza Horizon 3 and NASCAR Heat Evolution.

Here's my new PC building lists. Only one missed is OS, but don't worry! I can buy Windows 10 for 20-30 from Kinguin...

Must be shipping from Amazon because I have a Primes member

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: PNY Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $789.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-14 10:54 EDT-0400

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Memory, again, should be 2x8gb's sticks. The nVidia 960 is outperformed by the Radeon 380x(which is also cheaper). You can get a better case(better cable routing, possibly nicer aesthetics) for cheaper.

Two years from now, you'd be better off buying one video card instead of trying to SLI/Crossfire. The h170 will support the same cpu's as the z170, you just can't overclock on it. Unless you are absolutely sure you'll be buying a "K" Cpu later, save the money now. Also, any Cpu you buy in two years won't be worth the money spent as an upgrade over the i5 6500.
Populate your ram slots. 4x4GB > 2x8GB.

Strongly against the PowerColor R9 380. It is a bad brand and not an amazing card for the money.

You will probably end up OCing your I5 using BCLK which is fine. The 6400 isn't much slower than the 6500.

 

logainofhades

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Not a good PSU choice, and I do not recommend getting your OS, from Kinguin. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2979288/error-activate-w10pro.html

Z170 is pointless, as you cannot overclock an i5 6500. PNY is the one ram brand that I avoid, due to past failures. Also the RX480 will be out, at the end of the month. AMD is claiming R9 390 performance, for $200. I would go with something more like this, and save up/wait out, for the 480, if you can.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($197.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H170A-X1/3.1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($79.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $635.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-14 12:19 EDT-0400
 

logainofhades

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That ram suggestion is wrong. 2x8 is better, as it is a dual channel rig, and puts less stress on the memory controller. 4x4 is only recommended for x99, quad channel, setups. Only a few select asrock boards allow blck overclocking now, thanks to Intel getting in the way.
 


I don't normally don't do this but OP I would ignore this posters answer.

The CPU has a dual channel memory controller so its better you have only two sticks of RAM vs four as you can run tighter latencies and have less parts to fail.

The OP said they have no interest in overclocking so why mention it.

This seems like a fine budget PC build. You might think about an after market CPU cooler but you can call that later if the Intel cooler is to loud for your tastes.

Since you didn't say you were building today you may think about waiting until June 29th and pick up a Radeon RX 480 which will run $200 and from all reports so far should be considerably faster than the 380. Since its only two weeks away I highly recommend waiting.
 


These are very sensible tweaks. The memory choice I probably would go with the DDR4 2400 version of the exact same memory as the price is almost the same and that is about where you would see no more performance gains on these dual channel systems(excluding built in graphics). Anyhow I second these tweaks as they are a bit better value or quality.
 
If you choose to use the entire budget, this is also an option.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($118.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($49.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380X 4GB PCS+ Myst. Edition Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $794.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-14 12:36 EDT-0400

:edit: Upped to the "k" processor, paired with a Z170 board for overclocking goodness. Also necessitated adding the Cpu cooler as well, good for mild to medium overclocks easily.

As was said before, there isn't anything bad about the Powercolor brand of Radeon cards. The 380x is in your budget, for a good price. If you wanted to wait until the next release of Radeons comes out, I'd understand, this is just for "right now". With the budget constraints, you'd probably have to drop back down to the intel i5 6500 and h170 chipset motherboard though. It would be worth it.

Standard 1tb HDD with 240gb SSD. Great price on the case, so it's included. Solid Psu and semi-modular as well. Standard ddr4 cas 15 2400mhz ram in a 16gb configuration. Prices being what they are, no reason to just buy 8gb's now.
 

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1. Umm, why? I know I don't need 4x4GB to populate my ram slots. 2x8GB will working and 2 more slots to upgrade more RAM later when I need to.

2. I know that brand isn't great.

3. What? I don't need to overclocking a CPU. i5 6500 is right balance at all.
 
I should have been more clear.
You generally speaking don't want to buy more RAM later as it can cause problems, they are binned together for a reason. You can actually save money looking out for 4x4GB sets but that isn't as common anymore, with 2x8GB being the standard for DDR4. But if you want 32GB you should buy a 32GB kit, not two 16GB kits. You aren't overclocking, and you certainly aren't going to be manually altering your timings by the sound of it, so the point of it being faster is truly moot, your controller isn't going to be struggling in any capacity.

You should probably wait for the new line of GPUs as everyone else mentioned.

The point about the "you may OC eventually" thing was just justification for the Z170 motherboard, if you're never going to OC anything ever, then you could save some money by getting a lower end board. An i5 6500 inside of a Z170 is just not exactly an logical pairing if you can't even use BCLK overclock.
 
another option is using a 6400 amd a h100 or h170 micro atx mb. if the op not going to over clock or sli/crossfire. he could use the saving for a better gpu. as you have got the parts yet intel is also in a few weeks dropping there new 200 chipset and kurby lake cpu.
http://www.techspot.com/news/65039-intel-kaby-lake-processors-set-release-later-year.html
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/05/intels-post-tick-tock-kaby-lake-cpus-definitely-coming-later-this-year/
 

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H170 doesn't support speeds beyond 2133.
 

Josh B

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Better or worse? Firstly, I know i5 6500 and Z170 is wasted, but Z170 only support SLI.... What if I want to upgrade new Geforce video cards and new better CPU in 2 years later. Z170 MB is my final chose.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($197.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Extreme3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($68.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 960 4GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $792.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-14 16:59 EDT-0400
 
Memory, again, should be 2x8gb's sticks. The nVidia 960 is outperformed by the Radeon 380x(which is also cheaper). You can get a better case(better cable routing, possibly nicer aesthetics) for cheaper.

Two years from now, you'd be better off buying one video card instead of trying to SLI/Crossfire. The h170 will support the same cpu's as the z170, you just can't overclock on it. Unless you are absolutely sure you'll be buying a "K" Cpu later, save the money now. Also, any Cpu you buy in two years won't be worth the money spent as an upgrade over the i5 6500.
 
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