Crazy Model M Keyboard / Boot / Motherboard / BIOS / USB / PS2 issues! Please help!

tfitch11

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I am sorry in advance for all of this craziness. I will try to do my best at giving a detailed timeline of what has happened and what I think to be the issue. Please feel free to reach out if I need to clarify anything.
First things first my build is below, I have an MSI A88X-G45 Motherboard. I had never encountered any issues with booting prior to this,
From last year to about 3 weeks ago, I was using an IBM Model M keyboard with a PS/2 connector. My MB supports PS/2 so I had no need for an adapter. No problems encountered.

My affinity for the Model M keyboard led me to find one that was "born" on my Birthday. I had to have it, and so I bought it and as it originally had a terminal connector incompatible with any computer, I had to have it USB modded.

1 month ago I received it with the USB mod and I plugged it in to my computer, and it worked fine.

About 3 weeks ago, I attempted to try to mess with overclocking, I didn't do anything too crazy, I used AMD Overdrive and only messed with my multipliers on stock voltage. I think I got to about 3.9 GHz before it became unstable. Immediately regretting trying to OC at all (I really have no use to overclock; I was simply "bored") I undid any changes I made, turned off my "OC Genie" and went back to Stock settings.

Shortly after, I started experiencing random BSOD's when my computer had gone to sleep and I woke it up. I attributed this to possibly damaging my MB with my OC attempts. The error I got was: "A required device isn't connected or can't be accessed". I would attempt to restart into BIOS, but it would not recognize my keyboard or me mashing my DEL key. In order to remedy this, I would switch back to my original PS/2 keyboard, which was recognized, once in BIOS I would simply save and exit and it would boot normally. I went back to using the PS/2 keyboard, thinking that I had USB hardware issues.

I was notified that a BIOS update came out and was ready for me to install about 2 weeks ago. I updated my BIOS and decided to go look to see what was new. While in there, I found that Legacy USB was "Enabled". I set this option to "Disabled" curious to see what it would do in regards to the USB Model M keyboard.

Lo and behold, I was able to boot with no problem on the USB Model M after changing this setting. I experienced no problems since then. Because I had assumed this was resolved, I have since sold the PS/2 keyboard (I have another Model M awaiting restoration and will be keeping that one on the original PS/2 connection; will not be USB modding this one).


Yesterday, since establishing my system was stable, I decided to enable my fast boot option. I shut down my computer last night, everything was fine.

This morning, I turn on my computer for work and my POST emits 2 long beeps and a Blue Screen with the same message as before: "A required device isn't connected or can't be accessed." It wasn't recognizing the Model M USB keyboard again. This time, I had no PS/2 keyboard to use to get it to boot, so I had to go to the office.

When my boyfriend woke up, I told him what was going on (but not in this much detail). He decided to start troubleshooting and the first thing he did was swap out the Model M keyboard with a new keyboard (Razer or something) from this millennium. It booted just fine. He disabled fast boot, shut down the computer, plugged in the Model M keyboard and it booted fine. Fast boot prevented the computer from booting with the Model M plugged in.

Now, my question is this:

Why?
 
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OK, that issue will only cause the keyboard not to work, but it would still be identified. For some reason I had this issue with my Logitech C270 Webcam. It was undervolted (i fixed somehow, took lots of repluging into different powered ports) but still discovered. So this shouldn't be the reason for boot to fail. If it is it would be if you have the UB404LA where there is one chip, not two. In my camera it was discovered because of the primary chip which tells the computer details. The secodary chip wasn't recieved properly therefore didnt have the voltage and couldn't transmit the pictures. The seconday chip funniliy eniugh turns on first. So if you have an all in one chip, and it isnt made correctly it would *possibly* damage your...

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Because maybe the drivers for the model M aren't signed AT ALL. Also you may have enabled test signing in windows for your usb modification. These things cause the 'drivers', the software which tells your operating system about your hardware, doesn't look legitimate. So windows fails Safeboot. Fastboot 99% of the time is enabled with safeboot therefore casuing your computer to incompatible boot.

Fastboot isnt THAT useful so you can disable. Safeboot though stops malware starting at your boot of your computer by checking for anything NOT made by microsoft, which are your drivers. It's up to you whether you disable it.

Hope this helps ;)
 

tfitch11

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Ok this definitely helps. I was also reading an article here discussing USB Mods on Model M's and incompatibility issues with USB ports. This is a little bit over my head but if you have a second the check that out, it seems that there may be some voltage issues causing failed initit. of the keyboard on boot? Thoughts?
 

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OK, that issue will only cause the keyboard not to work, but it would still be identified. For some reason I had this issue with my Logitech C270 Webcam. It was undervolted (i fixed somehow, took lots of repluging into different powered ports) but still discovered. So this shouldn't be the reason for boot to fail. If it is it would be if you have the UB404LA where there is one chip, not two. In my camera it was discovered because of the primary chip which tells the computer details. The secodary chip wasn't recieved properly therefore didnt have the voltage and couldn't transmit the pictures. The seconday chip funniliy eniugh turns on first. So if you have an all in one chip, and it isnt made correctly it would *possibly* damage your boot. This is, again very unlikely and there is no evidence to prove this.

In simple terms, I doubt that was your problem. I think it is just the drivers. Hope this hepled ;). Please mark my first post as the solution if it did.
 
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tfitch11

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Well we plugged in my boyfriend's "modern" keyboard (LOL) and it booted just fine; I turned off Fast Boot (which I had forgotten that I turned on the day prior) and it booted up just fine after that. No problems since