SSD on an Older Motherboard Worth The Investment? (ASUS P5KPL-CM)

N7610

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I have an older PC and don't have the time to build a new one sadly. So Im essentially trying to prolong it's life as long as possible.

It's current specs are:

Motherboard: Asus P5KPL-CM (https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P5KPLCM/)
CPU: Intel Core2Quad Q9550 @ 2.83 GHZ
RAM: 4GB DDR2 @ 800MHZ
GPU: EVGA Geforce GTX 550 TI 2GB DDR5
HDD: ExcelStor Technology J9250s ATA Device

Im just curious about the possiblity of using an SSD alongside my HDD if possible and have browsed some forums about it too yet found what seem to be several contradicting answers on whether or not an SSD would be compatible or whether I'd see any benefits from doing so.

The general concencious I've found is that an will "work" on my board just not as well as it could be.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18239974

However, I asked a friend of mine about it who works with computers more often than I do and he believes it wont work at all.

If it is at all possible for me to gain any benefit I'd jump at it. I've just been shopping around on amazon and saw an affordable option but I'm worried about compatibility and benefit.

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-X400-SATA-128G-SD8SB8U-128G-1122/dp/B0195B32WW/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1465963419&sr=8-10&keywords=sandisk+sata+2+ssd

Would I be safe going with this? Or would there be a better option? Or should i just simply stay where I'm at right now and save my cash?




 
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Gonna cut and post from another answer I gave since this is the same question. Your motherboard has a SATA 2 interface (3 Gbps).

A HDD's sequential speeds are about 125 MB/s. A SSD's sequential speeds on SATA 3 are about 500 MB/s. 4x faster.

A HDD's 4k speeds are about 0.7 MB/s. A SSD's 4k speeds are about 30-70 MB/s. 40x to 100x faster. If the SATA interface supports NCQ (queuing multiple small file requests, instead of waiting for one task to complete before giving it another task), its 4k speeds can go up to 200-400 MB/s. So now it's several hundred times faster than a HDD.

So it's the 4k speeds which make a SSD feel so much faster than a HDD. It's not the sequential speeds that users and drive manufacturers obsess over.

You'll...

N7610

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So just to confirm, it just needs to be installed like a normal hdd (possibly with a bracket due to size?) And the storage of the SSD doesnt really matter? Meaning, if I go for the 256 or 512gb model it should still be compatible?

Thanks in advance
 
Gonna cut and post from another answer I gave since this is the same question. Your motherboard has a SATA 2 interface (3 Gbps).

A HDD's sequential speeds are about 125 MB/s. A SSD's sequential speeds on SATA 3 are about 500 MB/s. 4x faster.

A HDD's 4k speeds are about 0.7 MB/s. A SSD's 4k speeds are about 30-70 MB/s. 40x to 100x faster. If the SATA interface supports NCQ (queuing multiple small file requests, instead of waiting for one task to complete before giving it another task), its 4k speeds can go up to 200-400 MB/s. So now it's several hundred times faster than a HDD.

So it's the 4k speeds which make a SSD feel so much faster than a HDD. It's not the sequential speeds that users and drive manufacturers obsess over.

You'll notice that these 4k speeds are almost all below the SATA 2 speed limit (300 MB/s). Only large sequential file read/writes will be slower with SATA 2. That's mostly benchmarks and (if you had a second SSD) copying movies from one SSD to another. About the only real-life task where high sequential speeds really matter with a single SSD is real-time video editing. The vast majority of files a computer accesses on a drive are small (4k) to medium (a few megabytes), and with current SSDs these will almost always fall below the SATA 2 speed limit.

So yeah, upgrading a SATA 2 motherboard with a SSD is worth it. The main thing you should be worried about is whether or not the SATA interface supports NCQ (since that can make about a 5x difference in speed of 4k read/writes). Some SATA 2 interfaces have it, some don't. NCQ is a part of the AHCI command set. So if the motherboard has AHCI mode available in the BIOS, then it will support NCQ and you are good to go. (This is also why it's important to change the computer from IDE to AHCI mode when you upgrade to a SSD.)

And to answer your followup questions, just install it like a HDD. The motherboard will see it and treat it like a HDD. It'll just be really fast. You can buy a bracket if you like. But SSDs are so lightweight you can just make a loop of duct tape and use it to stick the SSD to the side of the case or in an empty drive bay.
 
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Tradesman1

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Yes on the install, you can pick up a tray for it for a few dollars if you wish, some use velcro to attach it to a flat spot. Yes could go bigger 256 should be more than sufficient if planning to keep your old HD, use the SSD for OS and primary apps

 
I have a Core 2 Quad (Q6600) system that my wife uses. I installed a SSD (840 EVO) in her system and had a drastic improvement. Although throughput is important, seek time is more important especially when dealing with many small files. With a traditional HDD, seek times average 15ms or more. With an SSD, seek time is less than 1ms. It's pretty easy to determine that accessing lots of small files one after the other will see a huge improvement. This describes the Windows boot process pretty well.

So my wife's system boots into Windows 10 nearly as fast as my i7 4770K system. Applications launch instantly. So while large file transfers will be bottlenecked over SATA II, it's still bound to be much faster than a HDD.
 

combinebasic

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Hi, your computer is compatible with SSD but lets consider the better performance in your system, you can use this link so that you can decide and compare your RAM and the exact SSD specs you need in your computer. http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/compatible-upgrade-for/ASUS/p5kpl-cm#ssdResults, if your RAM not in maximum speed for this SSD you can upgrade it. Use the link I give to you