3D Modelling & Rendering build (2800-3000$)

DarXtra

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hello
im looking for a help
i wanna a build for rendering and modelling
but i can buy only from amazon.com
can u help me with that

must be containd
CPU . MOTHERBOARD , RAM , GRAPHIC CARD , PSU , COOLING SYSTEM , SSD , HDD , Full Tower Case

motherboard should have two sockets for a future upgrade
psu about 1000w or up for future upgrade
thank u !
 
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DarXtra,

As you requested a dual CPU motherboard, this is a suggestion for a Xeon E5-2600 v3 dual system that, however starts with a single CPU and a second can be added later. In Adobe CC for example and Autodesk, there is little point in going beyond really 5-6 cores -at the moment, but this will change and if you are CPU rendering and can use every thread, a 2nd CPU can...

PandaPlays

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INSTEAD OF BUYING FROM AMAZON, BUT FROM LOCAL STORE! (FOR WARRANTY)

Any system that is 2000$ will be able to run Maya and all other 3d modelling programs.

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.97 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($66.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Fury White Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($184.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($57.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($95.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N10 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($9.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $995.81
This setup here could run it easily. So just buy whatever you like, with that price range your pc will run it no matter what
 

FelixVincent

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I would love to go to pcpartpicker and make a beast pc for you but i dont have the time. just quickly you waant an X99 CPU and one of nvidias "workstation GPUS" so that means not GTX series X99 means x99 cpu and Motherboard im just saying dude but you have an insane budget and make sure you know what your getting sorry i couldnt help more but good luck
 
2x cpu-https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B015NLI4NK/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1466048091&sr=8-1&keywords=e5-2670&condition=used
mobo-https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007EDAOMK/ref=psdc_1048424_t3_B0082FOSDA
ram 4x-https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-FURY-2x4GB-1600MHz/dp/B00J8E93G6/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1466048329&sr=1-2&keywords=ddr3+ram
gpu-https://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-Quadro-K4000-Graphics-PNY/dp/B00BLTE7X0/ref=sr_1_7?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1466048498&sr=1-7&keywords=quadro
cooling- https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Contact-Heatpipes-RR-T4-18PK-R1/dp/B00BSKY1M4/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1466048640&sr=1-2&keywords=hyper+212+evo
case-https://www.amazon.com/Chenbro-Micom-Co-Ltd-Motherboard/dp/B00P9XJPXQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1466048589&sr=1-4&keywords=ssi+eeb+case
ssd-https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E500B-AM/dp/B00OBRE5UE/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1466048691&sr=1-1&keywords=samsung+evo+850
hdd-https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Desktop-Hard-Disk-Drive/dp/B013QFRS2S/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1466048715&sr=1-4&keywords=2tb+hard+drive
psu-https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-HX1000i-Platinum-Certified-warranty/dp/B00M2UINT6/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1466048776&sr=1-1&keywords=corsair+psu
 


ddr4 gives ZERO advantage over ddr3 ram speed means nothing. and you will not get a dual cpu build under 3k if you want a socket that supports ddr4
 

DarXtra

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tbh im not okay with ur suggestions
let me tell u why
as i told u im not planning to make a big upgrade after i purchase
so why u didn't suggest a " E5 V3 CPU , A 612 Chipset , and a known brand of case's "
 


"i told u im not planning to make a big upgrade after i purchase" yes thats why i suggested a build that you dont have to upgrade

e5 v3 cpus will run around 1k for a cpu that will preform exactly the same a a e5 2670

their is no advantage to getting a 612 chipset so why should i recommend it

and finding a case to support a dual socket mobo is very difficult and a case is a case why does it matter what company made it. if you want a name-brand case i believe the corsair 900d supports ssi ebb form factor it will also cost 200 more.
 


DarXtra,

As you requested a dual CPU motherboard, this is a suggestion for a Xeon E5-2600 v3 dual system that, however starts with a single CPU and a second can be added later. In Adobe CC for example and Autodesk, there is little point in going beyond really 5-6 cores -at the moment, but this will change and if you are CPU rendering and can use every thread, a 2nd CPU can added. The key to CPU choice for this systems is that modeling needs a high single-thread performance but as cores are added- for rendering, the clock speed drops. For the system to be useful for both modeling and rendering, there is no pair[/i] of 4, 6 or 8 core Xeons within the budget with high single-thread ratings.

To have a really current specification, it would use a Xeon E5-2600 v4. These are still being released and in the line-up there is no good balance between cores and clock speed in v4's that isn't extremely expensive- $1,500+. So, this suggests using an E5-2640 v3 8-core v3 that still has a good single-thread rating (Passmark average CPU mark = 14055 and single-thread rating is 1956).

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CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2640 v3 Octa-core (8 Core) 2.6 . 3,4GHz Processor - Socket FCLGA2011 Retail Pack BX80644E52640V3 > $770 [Note: this is a CPU pulled from an unused server]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00NBP04YI/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 CPU Cooler >$59.99

Motherboard: Supermicro Extended ATX DDR4 LGA 2011 Motherboard X10DAI-O > $411.15

RAM: 32GB 2X Crucial CT16G4RFD4213 16GB Single DDR4 2133 MT/s (PC4-2133) CL15 DR x4 ECC Registered DIMM 288-Pin Server Memory $182 ($91 each)

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB DirectX 12 Founder's Edition Graphics Cards GV-N1070D5-8GD-B > $609.69

Drive 1: Samsung 950 PRO Series - 256GB PCIe NVMe - M.2 Internal SSD (MZ-V5P256BW) > $180.89 (OS and Programs)

M.2 to PCIe X4 adapter: Lycom DT-120 M.2 PCIe to PCIe 3.0 x4 Adapter (Support M.2 PCIe 2280, 2260, 2242) by Lycom >$22.85

Drive 2: Samsung 950 PRO Series - 256GB PCIe NVMe - M.2 Internal SSD (MZ-V5P256BW) > $180.89 (Active Projects)

Drive 3: Seagate Constellation ES.3 2TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache SATA Internal Hard Drive > $127.70 (Storage)

Power Supply : Seasonic SS-1050XM2 ATX 1050 Power Supply > $197.00

Case: Lian-Li Case Full Twer Chassis Aluminum USB3.0 Black Retail PC-A76 > $242.02

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TOTAL= $2,958.66

Performance should be very good. If you don't like the new server-pull CPU idea- which saves $150, the above system can be reconsidered using an E5-2630 v3 8-core @ 2.4 /3.2GHz for about $675 (Passmark average CPU mark = 12841 and single-thread rating is 1760).

Cheers.

BambiBoom

Modeling:

1. HP z420 (2015) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) > 32GB DDR3 1866 ECC RAM > Quadro K4200 (4GB) > Samsung SM951 M.2 256GB AHCI / Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) / Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z2300 speakers > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)>
[ Passmark Rating = 5581 > CPU= 14046 / 2D= 838 / 3D= 4694 / Mem= 2777 / Disk= 11559] [6.12.16]

Rendering:

2. Dell Precision T5500 (2011) (Revised) > 2X Xeon X5680 (6-core @ 3.33 / 3.6GHz), 48GB DDR3 1333 ECC Reg. > Quadro K2200 (4GB ) > PERC H310 / Samsung 840 250GB / WD RE4 Enterprise 1TB > M-Audio 192 sound card > Logitech z313 > 875W PSU > Windows 7 Professional 64> HP 2711x (27", 1920 X 1080)
[ Passmark system rating = 3844 > CPU = 15047 / 2D= 662 / 3D= 3550 / Mem= 1785 / Disk= 2649] (12.30.15)


 
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DarXtra

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thank you bambiboom
but can u tell me why u picked 1070 instead of quadro ?
 
thank you bambiboom
but can u tell me why u picked 1070 instead of quadro ?


DarXtra,

Since 2001 I have used only Quadros plus a couple of Firepros and prefer them for the Autodesk, Adobe, and Dessault software I use. In this case, it was a budgetary decision as the minimum Quadro suitable to this system is a Quadro M4000 (8GB) which would add about +$230 to the cost. The GTX970 has a good reputation for Premiere and AE use, but if you are using for example Maya, I would suggest only a Quadro..

I think of a dual Xeon E5 system- that needs to have a good single-threaded performance, plus multiple cores and a lot of CUDA cores for both CPU and GPU rendering,and a fast disk system as a $5,000+ system. Starting with a single CPU and using a GTX instead of a Quadro is the only way to maintain the performance and a quite high image quality within the general performance expectation and within the budget.

In this budget, if released from the original request limits, I would suggest either:

1. A used, upgraded workstation: Dell Precision T7600 (about $700) and add 2X Xeon E5-2690 (8-core @ 2.9 /3.8Ghz) (about $450), 64GB of RAM DDR3-1600 ECC registered (used about $400), a Quadro M4000 (8GB) $830, a Samsung SM951 256GB M.2 on a PCIE adapter card ($200), Samsung 850 (512GB)($160) and 2TB storage drive ($130), - about $3,000. The reasoning is that that system is providing the performance of that system as new which would have cost perhaps $12,000 or so. This is based on experience with 7 used, upgraded workstations since 2004 of which reliability has been 100%- not a single failed component. The longest running of these, a 2008 Precision T5400 was the main system from 2010 to 2013 and was sometimes running continuously for up to a week. It still starts and runs perfectly.

2. This is quite close and from Amazon:

Dell Precision T7600 Workstation, 2x Intel Xeon E5-2670 2.6GHz Eight Core Processors, 128GB DDR3 Memory, 1x 500GB Hard Drive, NVIDIA Quadro NVS 295, Windows 7 Professional Installed > $1,059. There's a pair of E5-2670 is 8-core @ 2.6 /3.3 - not a million miles from the E5-2640 v3 (8 Core) 2.6 / 3.4GHz which alone costs $940, but the company might be able to substitute E5-2690 and there's 128GB of RAM. At that price of $1,059, add the fast drives and Quadro M4000- perhaps $2,400-$2,600 with the two CPU's and 128GB of RAM already.

It's all well and good to have the latest technology, but if two CPU's with the same number of cores and higher clock speed cost half of the one new one, there are then funds that can go into the best GPU's and drives.

Or, for a new system in which all the parts are from Amazon:

3. F A Xeon E5-1600 v3 series 6-core on an X99 motherboard- probably ASUS Z10 WS, Quadro M4000, native M.2 NVMe OS /Programs drive, 2nd M.2 NVMe or Intel 750 PCIe scratch disk, , and Mech'l storage drive. This would again approach the $3,000 upper limit, This recommendation is based on the limitations of CPU multi-threading and concentrating on the real-time performance and leaving rendering .processing semi-autonomous processing as secondary performance since it's possible to setup a queue and walk away.

I might mention the last two times I bought computer parts from Amazon ended in disappointment. These were both drives and the first mech'l HD arrived in a clamshell rolled in bubble wrap in a folded over piece of cardboard open on the ends, and three years later- last week- an M.2 drive purchased as new sent in a soft envelope that revealed it had been started 84 times and used a total of 120 hours. An entire day wasted installing/ loading and then uninstalling wiping, and packing, mailing it back. It's not a computer part, but I ordered a y-cable-(dual RCA male to 3mm stereo female) necessary to use new wireless headphones and it took two weeks extra to arrive from China - the $250 item useless until the $2.45 item shows up. A company too big to succeed? Here endeth the rant.

Cheers,
BambiBoom