AM3+ MOBO for overclocking?

Vizour · Jun 19, 2016

Hi,
I want to upgrade my PC in order to get some high overclocks with AMD FX-8320. My current MOBO is MSI 970 Gaming, which is really weak of OC but does great in everything else. It would be nice to have a board built for overclocking (to reache up to 5 GHz) with modern features, but I don't want to spend a fortune on that. I was thinking about Gigabyte 990FX-Gaming, MSI 990FXA GAMING and others. I want a board, which could show me the full potencial of the FX-8320 and would also be good for Crossfire of AMD 2,X slot graphics crads. Thanks for answers, Vizour

CPU: AMD FX-8320 @ 4,0 GHz
CPU cooler: Corsair H100i
RAM: Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB 1866 MHz
MOBO: MSI 970 Gaming
GPU: Sapphire Radeon R9 390 Nitro (+ backplate)
PSU: Corsair RM750

junkeymonkey · Jun 19, 2016

I guess a 990fx would be the choice but then your still down to luck as in as they say ocerclocking is all your own risk and nothing is guaranteed you may invest in all this and do some good then you may find its was all for folly and be not much better off then what you had before ??

all you can do is buy try and hope it don't make you cry and fingers crossed

good luck

Vizour · Jun 19, 2016

junkeymonkey :

Thanks for answer!
You think that any better MOBO with 990FX chipset is good for overclocking? If so, what is the difference between the most expensive boards (for example Asus ROG Crosshair V Formula-Z) and some better priced (like the Gigabyte 990FX-Gaming)?

junkeymonkey · Jun 19, 2016

my '' last '' 3 asus's were pretty much junk and not good at stability ??? so with AM3+ overall is why I jumped the AMD fan boat and went intel for my first time ever so I cant say . all I know my AM3+ experience was costly and never satisfied - my buddy replaced his asus board with a gigabyte 990fx ud3 at the time and it did good for him his son replaced his asus with a asrock extreme 9 and just went intel /asrock and cant say it was a wrong move did not even go with a ''k'' chip and way more satisfied

not to say its the best or anything maybe the asrock extreme6 or the giga ??

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/990FX%20Extreme6/

sorry

Vizour · Jun 19, 2016

junkeymonkey :

I went with AMD AM3+ because is it way cheaper than Intel i7s and because it is not as common solution.
I am really not sure about the motherboard. The one from Asrock you have posted here looks good and also supports up to 220W AMD CPUs. When I compare it to the oters from oter manufacturers, they support "only" 140W CPUs. Does this matter? I have no idea how much power does the CPU consum when overclocked and under full load.

junkeymonkey · Jun 19, 2016

well to me that would say the board may have better vrm or something to hold up to 220w power draw chip use ? I thought I brought that up above but guess I did not ??

like I was saying its hard for me to give any recommendations now giga has an newere board out to look at as well kinda looked nice ??

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5655#ov

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128886

109 after rebate not too bad

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10044/gigabyte-990fx-970-gaming-amd-fx

there been a few ''new'' release boards in the ASM3+ line and some likr this giga and that asrock are ''built up'' for more native 220w chip out of the box support so to me I would say its a improvement over the older 140w boards that just ''try'' to support 220w chips like asus does [why I can say go with a asus they lie]

MeanMachine41 · Jun 19, 2016

Vizour :

The ASUS Crosshair V Formula Z MB is the best board to support your FX-8320.
The VRMs are tops, looks good, functions well Great EUFI Bios and supports up to 220TDP, if you ever want to upgrade the processor.

You are asking a lot from your chip to get 5.0GHz and If you could I doubt a H100 would cope under load, and have stability issues. Nothing wrong with trying tho.

Vizour · Jun 21, 2016

MeanMachine41 :

Thanks for the tip. I was already thinking about the Asus Crosshair V Formula Z, but I don't want to spend so much money on and it's features are mabye a litte out of date. Yes, the desing is very nice, colling as well and the stability too, but I am looking for a MOBO that has all this and some new features as well. What do you think about the Gigabyte 990FX-Gaming? It should support 220W CPUs too, the design is even better and it's new features (like M.2, USB 3.1, LAN and sound card) look really good. Also the price is nice. But what is the difference between the Crosshair V and 990FX-Gaming? Why is Crosshair's price so high?

junkeymonkey · Jun 21, 2016

lol... asus /stability .. lol that's a good one [opinion] asus today is al about hype and low on quality there not the good old asus of the past and folks now get fooled by thinking that

like I was saying my ''last'' 3 asus's were my ''last'' why do you think asus most time got twice as many bios updates on there boards then the same form another brand ''for system stability'' ??? cause the board was so stable to start with ?? one of my ''last'' asus was up to 18 bios then asus dropped it ... [990fx as well]

anyway your call on all that but I will agree go with the fresh newer release boards as you say ''but I am looking for a MOBO that has all this and some new features as well.''
so why buy the past today ? I think the giga looks nice and theres only 2 ways it can go you get a board that works as you expect or you don't [any brand]

MeanMachine41 · Jun 21, 2016

Well both will support the higher TDP draw but for OCing if that's you goal. Ive interacted and read many threads where OCing with the Gigabyte board can be tricky and some say a nightmare.

I think it comes down to quality of the VRMs and I personally like the CVFZ Bios better.
What better features are you talking about.?

Go here for a comparison: http://motherboards.specout.com/compare/590-1085/GIGABYTE-GA-990FXA-UD3-vs-ASUS-Crosshair-V-Formula-Z-Republic-of-Gamers

I have two of the CVFZ and have never had problems with my MBs.

Some may say ASUS have lousy support but all manufacturers have questionable direct support for extreme built systems and overclockers. They rely on their Public Forums to answer tricky questions.
The ROG Forum support is the best in that aspect.

junkeymonkey · Jun 21, 2016

heres a example of asus from that board show already 18 bios not including the bios removed [like bios 0806 ]

then in the specs its a 140w max board ''Supports CPU up to 140 W'' but yet has 200w chips in the cpu list [like I said asus and there lie and a quicky bios update for something not truly supported]

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/CROSSHAIR_V_FORMULAZ/HelpDesk_CPU/

things like this is what asus is now all about they got your money and your holding the bag

its so bad they got a 120w board that shows 2oow chips in the cpu list on them and folks miss the spescs of the board and buy a 220w chip and here at toms wondering why its not working out lol.....

just sseing how asus treats there support [and first hand ] and misleads tell me to beware . but that's just me and how I now see them

good luck

MeanMachine41 · Jun 21, 2016

junkeymonkey :

This is a Croc of Crap and quite frankly indicates some prejudice "OPINION' thru a bad experience.
Please get your facts correct as you are ill informed.

Read this press release from way back in 2013.

Taipei, Taiwan (2 September, 2013) — ASUS today announced that its existing 990FX-based motherboards all support the new flagship AMD FX-9000 Series processors at memory speeds up to 2400MHz, without the need for a BIOS update.
The ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z, Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 and M5A99FX Pro R2.0 motherboards all feature AM3+ Socket with full support for AMD’s extreme-performance FX-9370 and FX-9590 processors. With eight-cores and unlocked clock speeds up to 5GHz, the FX-9000 Series requires incredible amounts of power and generates considerable heat — AMD recommends a 1200W power supply and liquid processor cooling.
Existing ASUS 990FX motherboards not only take the FX-9000 Series in their stride, straight from the box, but also support rock-solid stability at memory speeds up to 2400MHz with selected DDR3 DIMM kits[1] — something that currently cannot be attained by 990FX-based motherboards from other vendors.
“ASUS is a market leader in the motherboard industry, thanks to the quality and innovation of its products,” said Roy Taylor, Corp Vice President of Global Channel Sales at AMD. “The out-of-the-box support for AMD FX-9000 Series processors offered by its 990FX-based motherboards is further proof of the solid design and high-quality components for which ASUS has long been renowned. In fact it’s so good, I used the same motherboard in my PC at home.”

And Here: http://rog.asus.com/10382013/news/asus-announces-full-support-for-amd-fx9590-and-fx9370-processors-with-existing-990fx-based-motherboards/

And Here: http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/CROSSHAIR_V_FORMULAZ/HelpDesk_CPU/

I have no idea why the US site states specs are different as all other world sites have the corrected specs.

Bios updates are considered an essential part of support to address the ever changing market of hardware and not an indication of poor support.

junkeymonkey · Jun 21, 2016

I bet there glad ''you'' fell that way and why asus with issues out number the rest near 50 to 1

MeanMachine41 · Jun 21, 2016

junkeymonkey :

Is that all you have to say "really" Once again mere opinion and no fact.

junkeymonkey · Jun 21, 2016

just look over toms and see the fact - asus this asus that one right behind the other like said 50 to 1 heck my buddy was a asus fan boy all ways with him asus was great and all nothing but the best but funny now he ditched them as well .. thing is as I seen it of you got a board that's got far more bios updates that the same like board from another brand , beware ..

what a load of crap its all right there at asus to look at if it has full support why is it speced at 140w ??? asus got caught changing that on the sabbertooth fro 140w to 220w on there support pages ..

look at the reviews of the board ''Supports CPU up to 140 W '' asus pulling another fast one and you get stuck with it

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/asus_sabertooth990fx_r2_review/5.htm

''Supports AMD 140W CPU''

http://www.manualslib.com/manual/414973/Asus-Sabertooth-990fx-R2-0.html?page=10#manual

and so on asus = misleading untrustworthy all hype no quality
outher brands built newer board with true 220w sup[port not give there older boards a quick bios update to fool you in to thinking it will or in hope it does

good luck [you will need it ]

sorry you cant see this

good luck and enjoy

MeanMachine41 · Jun 21, 2016

junkeymonkey :

Yes I read some of the uninformed rhetoric from cut and paste junkies without facts to back them up.

You have obviously not bothered to read my post regarding support for CVFZ and that is what we are talking about in respect to the original OP request.

I have personally OCed two of these boards (CVFZ) with the FX-9590 to 5.2GHz which have a TDP draw of 220W and I can prove it. What experience have you in this regard. I have also assisted many others in obtaining the same results.
So clearly the Board does well and truly support the chip.

Sorry you are misinformed but please do not spread misinformation as it does not help.

MeanMachine41 · Jun 21, 2016

Vizour :

There is a great deal of conjecture banded around regarding the CVFZ MB in respect to its ability to support the higher frequencies of 220w CPUs that are achievable.

Here is a verified Stable 5.2 OC of the AMD FX-9590 known as the beast. It can be tamed.

Vizour · Jun 21, 2016

MeanMachine41 :

Nice, there is no doubt about the quality of the CVFZ. But do you think it is worth extra half the price of the Gigabyte 990FX-Gaming? Anyway, I have "only" 750W PSU, so I probably will have to upgrade soon. And I have also some troubles (my second actual topic) with my GPU (?) - it's core clock drops and makes game stutter even at 60+ FPS. Some said it could by caused by the PSU (even if my PC's power consumption should be max 400W from GPU and 150W from CPU). I really don't know what to do now, but thank's for advice!!

junkeymonkey · Jun 21, 2016

'' I really don't know what to do now, ''

you do what YOU feel is best for YOU, like I said theres only 2 ways it can go [1] it will all work out as you expected it to or [2] it don't , and you live and learn and know better next time with your new experience / knowledge ..

''Here is a verified Stable 5.2 OC ' by who ?? do I see CVFZ. on any of that ?? just some of how you put it ? '' rhetoric from cut and paste junkies '' lol...

''This is a Croc of Crap and quite frankly indicates some prejudice "OPINION' ''

''Please get your facts correct as you are ill informed.'' all I put was from asus to start with so is it asus that's ill informed ??

like I was saying

''Supports CPU up to 125 W '' in the boards specs but has 220w chips in the cpu support pages

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/970-PRO-GAMING-AURA/HelpDesk_CPU/

so I guess ''MY'' facts are still wrong straight from asus own support pages ??? lol.....

MeanMachine41 · Jun 21, 2016

Vizour :

Nice, there is no doubt about the quality of the CVFZ. But do you think it is worth extra half the price of the Gigabyte 990FX-Gaming? Anyway, I have "only" 750W PSU, so I probably will have to upgrade soon. And I have also some troubles (my second actual topic) with my GPU (?) - it's core clock drops and makes game stutter even at 60+ FPS. Some said it could by caused by the PSU (even if my PC's power consumption should be max 400W from GPU and 150W from CPU). I really don't know what to do now, but thank's for advice!!

Vizour · Jul 1, 2016

MeanMachine41 :

Thanks for answer. I think I will change my graphics card first because it drops clock and the gaming experience really could be better. Than I will upgrade to some OC motherboard as you said.
Which cards do you have in SLI?

MeanMachine41 · Jul 1, 2016

Vizour :

MeanMachine41 :

Thanks for answer. I think I will change my graphics card first because it drops clock and the gaming experience really could be better. Than I will upgrade to some OC motherboard as you said.
Which cards do you have in SLI?

Two EVGA GTX 980 sc.

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