Dual Xeon X5550 or E3 1231 v3 or e5 2609 v3

NVIDIAFTWGuy · Jun 20, 2016

Im currently building a xeon based pc.

The workload these processor will face are:

Video editing 80%
Programming 10%
Gaming 10%

Which one do you guys prefer

Maxtery · Jun 20, 2016

Either the 2609 or the 1231. Since you are not Gaming much i would suggest the E5 2609.

NVIDIAFTWGuy · Jun 20, 2016

Maxtery :

If i went with the e5 2609, do i need to overclock it? since most games that i would like to play requires 2.66 at min and in some forums they say this processor isnt overclockable

bambiboom · Jun 20, 2016

NVIDIAFTWGuy :

NVIDIAFTWGuy,

The proposed system in the relationship of uses to hardware is a bit contrary. On one hand the Video editing and programming can benefit from a high core count, but a lot of cores is a recipe for a CPU with lower single-thread performance which would benefit gaming. I think the E5- 2609 v3 can be ruled out as the Passmark single-thread rating is only 1120 (5888 CPU Mark ). The single-threaded rating of dual Xeon X5500 is 1250 (9133 CPU Mark). The Xeon E3 1231 v3 has an excellent single thread rating of 2169- excellent for gamaing and 9611 CPU Mark, but the LGA1150 platform will be limited to 4-cores and 32GB RAM. If you're doing development, I think that running VM's would be slow and inconvenient.

It would help a recommendation if we knew the software you're using, and especially a budget. With limited information, my recommendation would be to buy a used workstation and upgrade. This can be a "barebones" and a dual CPU-capable system would be more flexible into the future. Dell Precision T7600 - about $500-600 and add: 2X Xeon E5-2680 8-core @ 2.7 /3.5GHz with single thread rating of 1647 and dual CPU mark of 18756 - about $110 each. Another tactic would be to use in a T7600 the E5-2690 8-core @ 2.9 / 3.8GHz - single thread rating of 1889 and dual CPU mark of 20626 and start with one and 32GB RAM and later add a second one and 32GB more RAM.

To the T7600 add a used GTX 970 ot 780 Ti, Samsung 850 Evo 250GB for OS /programs and a 2nd 850 EVO for active projects .games., plus a storage drive of the appropriate size.

If the budget is tighter, find a used workstation with the selected CPU already , for example:

HP Z420 Workstation 2.90GHz 8 Core E5-2690 8GB RAM 1TB HDD No OS sold for $540 or offer

Upgrading a used workstation will be much more time efficient and less expensive than if the parts are purchased separately.

As mentioned, it's difficult to have a high core count workstation that is also good at gaming, but a fast GPU will help.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

Modeling:

1. HP z420 (2015) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) > 32GB DDR3 1866 ECC RAM > Quadro K4200 (4GB) > Samsung SM951 M.2 256GB AHCI / Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) / Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z2300 speakers > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)>
[ Passmark Rating = 5581 > CPU= 14046 / 2D= 838 / 3D= 4694 / Mem= 2777 / Disk= 11559] [6.12.16]

Rendering:

2. Dell Precision T5500 (2011) (Revised) > 2X Xeon X5680 (6-core @ 3.33 / 3.6GHz), 48GB DDR3 1333 ECC Reg. > Quadro K2200 (4GB ) > PERC H310 / Samsung 840 250GB / WD RE4 Enterprise 1TB > M-Audio 192 sound card > Logitech z313 > 875W PSU > Windows 7 Professional 64> HP 2711x (27", 1920 X 1080)
[ Passmark system rating = 3844 > CPU = 15047 / 2D= 662 / 3D= 3550 / Mem= 1785 / Disk= 2649] (12.30.15)

NVIDIAFTWGuy · Jun 20, 2016

bambiboom :

NVIDIAFTWGuy :

NVIDIAFTWGuy,

The proposed system in the relationship of uses to hardware is a bit contrary. On one hand the Video editing and programming can benefit from a high core count, but a lot of cores is a recipe for a CPU with lower single-thread performance which would benefit gaming. I think the E5- 2609 v3 can be ruled out as the Passmark single-thread rating is only 1120 (5888 CPU Mark ). The single-threaded rating of dual Xeon X5500 is 1250 (9133 CPU Mark). The Xeon E3 1231 v3 has an excellent single thread rating of 2169- excellent for gamaing and 9611 CPU Mark, but the LGA1150 platform will be limited to 4-cores and 32GB RAM. If you're doing development, I think that running VM's would be slow and inconvenient.

It would help a recommendation if we knew the software you're using, and especially a budget. With limited information, my recommendation would be to buy a used workstation and upgrade. This can be a "barebones" and a dual CPU-capable system would be more flexible into the future. Dell Precision T7600 - about $500-600 and add: 2X Xeon E5-2680 8-core @ 2.7 /3.5GHz with single thread rating of 1647 and dual CPU mark of 18756 - about $110 each. Another tactic would be to use in a T7600 the E5-2690 8-core @ 2.9 / 3.8GHz - single thread rating of 1889 and dual CPU mark of 20626 and start with one and 32GB RAM and later add a second one and 32GB more RAM.

To the T7600 add a used GTX 970 ot 780 Ti, Samsung 850 Evo 250GB for OS /programs and a 2nd 850 EVO for active projects .games., plus a storage drive of the appropriate size.

If the budget is tighter, find a used workstation with the selected CPU already , for example:

HP Z420 Workstation 2.90GHz 8 Core E5-2690 8GB RAM 1TB HDD No OS sold for $540 or offer

Upgrading a used workstation will be much more time efficient and less expensive than if the parts are purchased separately.

As mentioned, it's difficult to have a high core count workstation that is also good at gaming, but a fast GPU will help.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

Modeling:

1. HP z420 (2015) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) > 32GB DDR3 1866 ECC RAM > Quadro K4200 (4GB) > Samsung SM951 M.2 256GB AHCI / Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) / Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z2300 speakers > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)>
[ Passmark Rating = 5581 > CPU= 14046 / 2D= 838 / 3D= 4694 / Mem= 2777 / Disk= 11559] [6.12.16]

Rendering:

2. Dell Precision T5500 (2011) (Revised) > 2X Xeon X5680 (6-core @ 3.33 / 3.6GHz), 48GB DDR3 1333 ECC Reg. > Quadro K2200 (4GB ) > PERC H310 / Samsung 840 250GB / WD RE4 Enterprise 1TB > M-Audio 192 sound card > Logitech z313 > 875W PSU > Windows 7 Professional 64> HP 2711x (27", 1920 X 1080)
[ Passmark system rating = 3844 > CPU = 15047 / 2D= 662 / 3D= 3550 / Mem= 1785 / Disk= 2649] (12.30.15)

Firstly, thank you for the detailed response.

I didn't have time to list down the workload, budget and parts i already have.
In addition, I live outside US, I can buy from lelong.com (ebay for malaysians) and at lowyat.

Budget: 606 usd

I already have a PSU 850 watt from corsair as well as ram 2x16 32GB non-ECC udimm and lastly, two gtx 970s + 1tb , 500gb and 120gb ssd

The software I will utilize:

Video editing 70%
All adobe products related to video edting
Blender
3dsmax

Programming 10%
Basic, C

Gaming 20%
Modern triple A games such as fallout 4

For used parts, i am limited to lga1366,lga2011 and lga 771

bambiboom · Jun 21, 2016

"Firstly, thank you for the detailed response.

I didn't have time to list down the workload, budget and parts i already have.
In addition, I live outside US, I can buy from lelong.com (ebay for malaysians) and at lowyat.

Budget: 606 usd

I already have a PSU 850 watt from corsair as well as ram 2x16 32GB non-ECC udimm and lastly, two gtx 970s + 1tb , 500gb and 120gb ssd

The software I will utilize:

Video editing 70%
All adobe products related to video edting
Blender
3dsmax

Programming 10%
Basic, C

Gaming 20%
Modern triple A games such as fallout 4

For used parts, i am limited to lga1366,lga2011 and lga 771"

NVIDIAFTWGuy,

The GTX 970s and Corsair power supply are in general very good components, but I believe:

1. It is not possible to run dual processors on non-ECC RAM.
2. If you use Adobe software, it will not run properly on dual CPU's
3. If you use Adobe software, it will run recognize dual GPU's
4. Be aware: The 32GB of memory will need to be DDR2 to work with Xeon X5550, DDR3 to work with E3 1231 v3, or DDR4 to work with E5 2609 v3. > What is the memory you have?

As I am unable to make a realistic recommendation as I do not have information as to the cost and availability of parts, may I ask:

> Is it possible to buy? >

1. Xeon E5- 2670 8-core @ 2.6 / 3.3GHz or : Xeon E5-2680 8-core @ 2.7 / 3.5GHz or: Xeon E5-2690 8-core @ 2.9 / 3.8GHz. These are LGA2011 that are very reasonably priced at the moment in the US -about $70, $110 and $190. Performance is very high with a very good single-thread rating for the E5-2680 and E5-2690 for games and provides 8-cores /16 threads on a single CPU, avoiding the dual CPU problem- will run Adobe software, and (I think, double check that ) you can use your non-ECC RAM.

2. A single socket LGA2011 motherboard that can run a Xeon E5-2600 series version 1

> Is it possible to sell the two GTX 970 and buy a single GTX 1080 or GTX 1070?

Suggestions:

A. If the CPU + motherboard = US $605 or less, my suggestion is to buy the fastest CPU of the three listed within the cost limit.
B. If the software is Adobe, consider changing the GTX 970's for a new GTX 1080 or GTX 1070- performance for video editing and gaming should be fantastically good

I hope this is of help.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

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