xeon 1231v3 vs i74 790k for video editing, really cant decide what is best for me

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So long story short doing some animation videos and edits in after effects on this setup
Psu:LLC6600 v2 600W (gona change that soon)
Case:Some case
Mobo:msi gaming 7 z97 lga1150
Cpu:intel pentium g3258 OC with the motherboard option to 4.6 from 3.2. (OC genie only)
Cooler: hyper 212 evo with dual coolermasters fans on it
ram:corsair vengeance 8gb (4+4) 2133hz cl9
ssd: 840 smsung evo
gpu:nvidia gt730 ( on schedule to change)

its time to invest some money to the build but i cant decide which of the 2
xeon costs in greece:278
i7 costs:335

i will also add another 8gb of the same pair of ram that costs 60euros

is the i7 worth the extra money so much? i only care about render times in after effects and preview times... nothing else, i dont game.

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the 1231v3 and 4790k are essentially the same processor. The difference is the i7 has an integrated GPU that the Xeon does not. If you have a GPU you are using (the GT 730 you have beats the iGPU handily) then you don't need the i7.

The i7 has only 1 advantage for you then which is that it can be overclocked, the Xeon can not.

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the 1231v3 and 4790k are essentially the same processor. The difference is the i7 has an integrated GPU that the Xeon does not. If you have a GPU you are using (the GT 730 you have beats the iGPU handily) then you don't need the i7.

The i7 has only 1 advantage for you then which is that it can be overclocked, the Xeon can not.
 
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of course Xeon if you don't game on it , it's better to have a workstation processor because it has more advanced technologies aimed for multi threading and hard jobs .
take a look at the Advanced technologies in this page :
Xeon:
http://ark.intel.com/products/80910/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1231-v3-8M-Cache-3_40-GHz
i7:
http://ark.intel.com/products/80807/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_40-GHz

note that the xeon has no integrated graphic processor.

and for the GPU you better go with Nvidia graphic cards because most of the designing softwares are working with Nvidia CUDA and that's a better option if you aimed at rendering and editing.
 
That's not going to give a 20% increase to make up for the 20% lower clocks. You're actually likely to see no increase in performance from those tech so please don't ever repeat that again. Also most designing software is not designed for cuda. Most software uses opengl for viewports and are cpu based rendering just like the one he mentioned, after effects. I doubt he's using 3d ray tracing in ae.

The e3 would save you some money but if you want faster, you can spend more for the i7.
 

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so your saying that xeon has no advantages in workstations? it's just like i7?

and about the CUDA thing that I've talked about adobe products works with mercury playback engine that works perfectly and in ultimate performance with nvidia CUDA technology.

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/773101

http://blogs.adobe.com/kevinmonahan/2013/09/13/enabling-cuda-for-the-mercury-playback-engine-in-the-macbook-pro-retina/
 
I have to agree, the xeon's no more 'workstation' suited than the i7 when it comes to the 1231v3 vs the 4790k. Granted both have 8mb cache and hyper threading but they are NOT the same. That's like saying a ford taurus and a corvette are essentially the same because they both have 4 wheels - except one is much faster than the other.

At stock the 1231v3 reaches up to 3.8ghz (less if more than one core is fully loaded) and the 4790k turbo's up to 4.4ghz out of the box (less if more than one core fully loaded). Meaning the 4790k is 600mhz faster per core out of the box without even overclocking it. You have a solid z97 board already, pair the 4790k with a decent air cooler and you could likely push it a bit faster, possibly 4.6 to 4.7ghz depending on your ambient room temps across all cores putting it 1ghz faster per core than the xeon.
 


It was a pretty big clock speed jump intel made for essentially a refresh. The i5's certainly didn't see a jump like that. Usually in the past the k were just unlocked versions, the 4790k was quite a bit faster out of the box than the 4790 refresh as well. The 4770 and 4770k were the same speeds which is how it used to be, just like the 4690 and 4690k. Anything to confuse people lol.

The 4790k is obviously more expensive by about $50 or so by those prices listed but for frequent video editing I think the additional clock speed would be worthwhile.
 

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Thanks for the tips guys. Will go for the i7. Also half the work in after effects is the preview before rendering process. Since I load about 800mb project files I guess higher clocks will give me better results. I mostly so advertising animation and lag & delays are my issue. Its a Pentium lol...

Also I'm using mercury as rendering option and not cuda cause my gpu(730) is a bit weak. Next upgrade plan after cpu +ram is a psu and a gtx970 or something.

Question. At the moment I have the Pentium g3258 on it. With the auto overclock button my motherboard has oc genie it went from 3.2 to 4.6 without me touching anything. If I do the same on the i7, will the turbo boost get disabled? I think I read somewhere that turbo boost gets disabled once u overclock.